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Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Horwitz responds to Eberle about the mosque

MOJ-friend and Prawfsblogger Paul Horwitz sends in these as-per-usual charitable and careful thoughts, responding to Chris Eberle (see here):

Chris Eberle raises some valuable questions in his correspondence with Rick about the New York mosque.  He is right that not all of the moral issues are settled simply by saying that the mosque has a legal right to build where it wishes.  But some of those moral issues are troubling. 

In a sense, Eberle's point - that the question is not one of the mosque's right to build but whether, given the public response, it ought to - hearkens back, interestingly enough, to other academic writing by Rick.  What we have in a nutshell is a version of the argument in Establishment Clause law that some government actions respecting religion should be forbidden because they will be politically divisive.  That concern is real and historically well-documented.  But as Rick has written, it does not tell us enough.  Few actions by government that involve religion, in one direction or another, will not be divisive; government's refusal to take certain actions (say, erecting a Ten Commandments monument) can be equally divisive to a different group of citizens.  It is thus hard to decide in whose favor a divisiveness argument should run.  And we would not want to make a constitutional rule turn on how loudly one side clamors against the other. 

 

Of course, as Eberle has pointed out, the present controversy, if we leave the law out of it, involves private and not public choices, and that's potentially quite different.  The mosque could always choose to build elsewhere.  But that raises another question, again drawn from constitutional doctrine: that of the heckler's veto.  The mosque believes that it will build bridges to the Muslim and non-Muslim community in the long run by building in lower Manhattan.  A vocal group opposes its decision to do so.  As Eberle says, the furor is supposed to convince the mosque to desist.  But we could say the same about any speech situation, and we often hesitate to put the final say in the hands of the objectors.  For one thing, the fact that there is vocal objection doesn't mean there isn't also a good deal of support out there for the mosque; those people's interests would be sacrificed if the mosque decided to capitulate to the loudest objectors.  For another, perhaps the furor will subside, as furors tend to do, and the mosque will still be right that in the long run it will have built more bridges than it burned. 

 

That doesn't mean we never believe, as a matter of respect rather than constitutional law, that a speaker should desist from speaking, or speaking in a particular time, place or manner, when there is substantial objection.  We may believe that one is free to use racial epithets, but that one shouldn't, and that objections to those epithets are real and meaningful.  We may support the right of those who condemn homosexuality to say so, but abhor a church group's decision to picket outside the funeral of a bias crime victim, like Matthew Sheppard. 

 

But is this really such a case?  Notwithstanding the vocal objections we have heard, is it really the case that building a mosque near Ground Zero is insensitive to either the nation (many of whom are Muslim citizens) or to the victims and survivors of the 9/11 attacks (same)?  Even as a matter of dialogue rather than law, should the objectors here really have a de facto veto right?  Or is it the case that, at least assuming the good faith of the mosque's organizers, the argument for building in lower Manhattan, if they choose to do so, should be stronger than the argument for their desisting?

 

And none of this yet considers the religious element involved.  Many churches take actions that provoke objections from the local community - not because they want to give offense, but because they believe their mission requires those actions.  A church that decides to substantially expand its seating capacity may infuriate local residents, and understandably so given the potential inconvenience, but it may believe it is religiously required to do so - and we in turn may believe that although the church could refrain from doing so, we ought in a properly functioning pluralist democracy to accommodate that church's needs if we can, even at the risk of inconveniencing neighbors.  Likewise, a local community that objects to a church's decision to start or expand a program of feeding the homeless out of its basement could say, echoing Eberle's point about the mosque: "The fervor of our objections will make the homeless feel unwelcome and cause tension between the church and local residents.  Therefore, your stated mission will fail.  Even if you have the right to do so, you should stop."  But for many readers of this blog, at least, the fact that the church feels compelled to continue with this program should be given strong weight, not just as a matter of law but as a matter of the respect that we accord to religious groups within our society, even when we are not members of that church.

 

The mosque may consider itself to be in a similar position.  To ask it to build elsewhere, or not at all, is of course an option, just as we could ask churches to refrain from feeding the homeless near residential neighborhoods.  But, knowing that the mosque considers building at this location to be important to its mission, both to the local Muslim community and others, should we ask?  Or, despite the objections, should we say that it is better for our society as a whole in the long run to respect the mosque's religious mission, and respectfully tell the objectors that their complaints should not have the upper hand here, no matter how vocal they may be?

 

I won't answer those questions, although my views should be evident.  I should add that I don't know what Eberle's own views are.  I simply want to point out that our intuitions about what the law does here not totally unrelated to our moral or political intuitions about what we ought do as a matter of social etiquette or dialogue, and that there are powerful reasons at both levels to worry about giving an effective heckler's veto to those who object to building the mosque at this location.

Monday, August 16, 2010

Boston College's take on "The Catholic Intellectual Tradition"

Fr. Robert Imbelli -- whose posts we all often read at dotCommonweal -- passed on to me this link to an interesting document, "The Catholic Intellectual Tradition," recently produced by a Committee at Boston College.  Check it out, and let me (and all of us) know what you think.

Religious-liberty "hypocrisy"

I like the "Distinctly Catholic" blog, which is run by Michael Sean Winters.  And,I agree with him that ('twas ever thus, no?) that politics and public debate presents no end of examples of hypocrisy, in the sense that many people find it much easier to endorse Principle X when its application benefits or protects those whom they like than to endorse that same Principle when its application threatens to benefit or protect those whom they don't like.  No doubt, some of those who are concerned about the so-called Ground Zero mosque fall into this category (as do, of course, some of those who are -- correctly, this time -- invoking "religious freedom" to establish the project's legal rights, but who might not worry much about religious freedom in other contexts). 

I think it is unfair, though -- and in the case of the baseless charges lobbed at our own Robby George, mean-spirited and unworthy -- to charge those who (a) are publicly and unquestionably dedicated to religious liberty but (b) have not (yet) spoken out in strong defense of the proposal with 'hypocrisy" or "fraud."  (I'm being defensive here, of course, because I spent the weekend doing things besides commenting on the mosque.) 

We do this too much in our public conversations, I think (I am guilty of this sometimes too, I am sure):  "You say you are on the side of the angels, but you have failed to condemn publicly [insert outrageous act or current controversy] and so . . . gotcha!  You are a fraud!"

UPDATE:  Winters responds to me here.  I continue to think that his criticisms of Robert George -- the winner of, among other things,the Canterbury Medal from the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty for his work on religious freedom -- are unfair and misplaced.  I say this not (merely) out of friendship and "loyalty," but because I believe it is true:  In my view, few Americans alive are more unswervingly (and effectively) devoted to authentic religious freedom than is Prof. George.  I do not believe that one is required, by virtue of one's commitment to religious freedom, to endorse publicly (or privately, for that matter) the proposed center.  Speaking only for myself -- and I like to think that my own commitment to religious freedom is beyond reasonable questionging -- I have mixed feelings (about the desirability of the project, not about the religious liberty of those who are proposing it).  I don't like some of the things that, I gather, Imam Rauf has said in the past; I also don't like (at all) the suggestion that there is something about the site's "sacred" status that makes it off-limits to a mosque.  In any event, if (as we've seen on this blog during the last few days) people as reasonable and decent as Chris Eberle and Paul Horwitz are not quite on the same page with respect to a question, then it seems to me that, well, reasonable and decent people can be on different pages with respect to that question.  

Cavadini on Ex Corde

Michael Sean Winters has posted thoughts from my Notre Dame colleague, John Cavadini (Theology), on the impact, influence, and importance of Ex Corde. Great stuff.  A taste:

Our colleges and universities, but especially the universities with graduate programs, live under the same pressures as the rest of the American academy. We want to compete in that terrain, and by and large the Catholic families who are our main constituency also want us to compete in that terrain. They want the degrees their offspring receive to have enough prestige and credibility to ensure, as they see it, success in life. If you aren't seen as a credible university, as fitting the paradigm of "university," you lose your constituency, even your Catholic constituency, apart from a strident minority. There are bigger Catholic student bodies at some of the prestigious secular universities than there are at many Catholic colleges and universities.

But aren't we supposed to be distinctive? Isn't that what our relationship with the Church should provide? Again, and understandably, universities begin to deal with the problem of how to be both academically credible and Catholic by vesting their Catholic identity in programming that, while certainly an essential part of the Catholic agenda, is actually present in almost any university of top quality. A focus on ethics? on social justice? on educating the whole person? What good university would eschew any of these, and in fact, not feature them? Language about social justice works its way into our mission statements, but language about witnessing to the truth of the Gospel does not, unless it is equated with the former. We seem to accept the going paradigm of academic excellence, and subordinate the "distinctive" element to that. But aren't we then selling ourselves short? Have we really made much progress?

More on the mosque

Like Rob, I received an e-mail asking why I (like others at MOJ) had not posted anything about the "Ground Zero Mosque" controversy.  I suppose part of the reason is that -- like Rob -- I think the legal and constitutional questions are not particularly hard or interesting.  (It is "open and shut", explains Eugene Volokh.)  Yes, it seems to me that it would not be consistent with our traditions, or with the relevant doctrines, to prevent the construction of a mosque -- because it is a mosque -- on a particular site. 

That said . . .

First, I think a lot of the commentary by those who agree with me (and Rob, and Eugene, etc.) has been off-puttingly preening and condescending in tone, as if all of those who have raised concerns about the proposal are doing so because they don't know or care about religious freedom, or toleration, or the Middle East, etc.  To say -- and I am not saying -- that this particular project ought not to go forward in this particular place (even if the law allows it) is not (necessarily) to deny or question the religious liberty or patriotism of American Muslims or the importance of inter-faith engagement. 

Second, I agree entirely with those who have pointed out that the failure of nearly every Muslim political community to afford religious liberty to their own citizens (including Muslims!) is not relevant to the content of our own commitment to religious freedom.  The religious liberty of Muslims in America is (thank God!) not contingent on Saudi Arabia respecting the religious liberty of Christians (or anyone else) there.  But, let's not forget:  This failure is a huge problem.  I do hope that those who are (appropriately) sensitive to the importance of religious liberty here -- including the President, and Imam Rauf -- will not forget, once this controversy dies down, to focus on the serious threats to religious liberty that exist, and are in many instances worsening, around the world.  (See here the work of Thomas Farr.)

UPDATE:  MOJ-friend and philosopher Chris Eberle sends in these thoughts:

. . . You said that you didn't address the issue b/c the constitutional and legal issues are not particularly difficult.  But that puzzles me. The discussion, as I understand it, isn't really about constitutional or legal issues.  Every (serious) commentary I have run across takes for granted (as obvious) that the Cordoba Project has the legal right to build a mosque on its own properly zoned property.  The furor is about the propriety of the manner in which the Cordoba Project exercises that right.  The (sensible) claim is that the leaders of the Cordoba Project should voluntarily refrain from exercising their undoubted right to build as they apparently plan to build.  All the furor is supposed to get them to do so!

This doesn't seem to me to be a crazy aim.  After all, the expressed reason for the Cordoba Project's erecting a Mosque in that particular location, as distinct from the many alternative possibilities, is that they want to foster mutual understanding between members of the Muslim faith and other religions.  But given the reaction, that argument is now defunct.  Given that the main reason (as I understand it) for the mosque/community center is simply not credible, lots of folks clamor for the Cordoba Project to relent. Do you think they they should not do so?  (There's also a negative side to this, I grant: the implausibility of the stated rationale for the project give rise to all kinds of conspiracy theories about 'real motivations,' sources of money, and so on.)

. . . I definitely think that the legal issues are settled.  But surely not all of the moral ones ... moral ones that emanate from the penumbra of the legal ones.  No?

YET ANOTHER UPDATE:  Here (HT:  America) is Cardinal O'Malley:

. . . [It] is a sign of the value we have for freedom in this country, and for religious freedom in particular. We certainly do not want to support groups that promote terrorism, but there are many American citizens who are Muslim, and they have a right to practice their faith. Having a mosque near the site of the attack can be a very important symbol of how much we value religious freedom in this country.

I compared the situation to a historical situation in Ireland: During the Easter Revolution the Irish were very careful to protect the rights of the Protestants in the Free State. They did not take back their cathedral or close their churches. Instead, they wanted people to see they believed in freedom of religion.

Saturday, August 14, 2010

The mosque near ground zero

A reader asks why there has been no debate on MoJ about the proposal to build an Islamic center and mosque 2-4 blocks from the World Trade Center site.  I'm guessing there hasn't been any debate because there isn't much disagreement among MoJers.  I could be wrong, so let me throw this out there: I support the building of the center at the proposed site, and I strongly oppose the idea that the government should forbid a religious body from building in a particular area based on the identity of the religion in question (as opposed to neutral zoning requirements, though even those can get tricky).  I realize that this liberty is not extended to Christian churches in many Islamic countries, but that doesn't change the analysis, in my view.  Further, if one legacy of 9/11 becomes "no Muslim presence anywhere near here!," I think we've played into the narrative sought by the Islamic radicals -- some grand religious and cultural war.  Thoughts?

UPDATE: I like the way William Saletan puts it:

This was never a war between us and the Muslim world. It's a war between us and al-Qaida. The central battleground in this war isn't Iraq, Afghanistan, or Lower Manhattan. It's Islam. That's the ground al-Qaida is fighting for. It's the ground Imam Rauf wants to take back. He wants to build an Islam that loves America, embraces freedom, and preaches coexistence. Let's help him.

Friday, August 13, 2010

Proposition 8 and the Rule of Facts

I have an essay on Judge Walker's Proposition 8 ruling in the forthcoming Commonweal.  You can read it here.  I welcome comments.

Thursday, August 12, 2010

Domestic Partnership and Business Partnership

Rick G and David Nikol posted nice, thought-provoking sets of comments to my recent post on marriage.  I've offered tentative replies in the comments section to the post.  It occurs to me that MoJ readers might also be interested in a somewhat more fully elaborated rendition of those attempts at replying here 'above the line,' so to speak.

Rick asks, among other things, whether a priciple per which states cannot rationally deny thinly defined civil marriage rights to same-sex partners might not also prohibit states from denying such rights to larger family units.  David, for his part, points out among other things that marriage in past times used to be more a matter of state than a matter of religious concern.  He also suggests that polygamy is at least one form of non-nuclear familial arrangement that is socially harmful.  In consequence, Rick and David severally take issue with my suggestions that (1) we perhaps ought to distinguish sharply in law between civil union and ecclesial marriage, with the former contoured by Equal Protection law and the latter enjoying far-reaching autonomy under Free Exercise Law, and (2) that one upshot of proposition 1 would be that the state might best be viewed as obligated not to restrict civil unions even to couples, let alone to heterosexual couples.  I've a few tentative thoughts in response:

First, I don't know much about what role marriage or its analogues played in earlier religious traditions or in the earlier phases of presently continuing religious traditions.  Nor do I know much about the political, as sometimes problematically distinguished from the religious, history of marriage many centuries or several millennia back. I am under the impression, however, that ecclesial courts handled marriage and family law matters in the not so distant past, with the 'king's' courts handling matters of more unambiguously state-style concern.  (Didn't Chancery, for example, handle these matters in England?)  I also believe, in any event, that a liberal polity such as our own aspires to be, in which all citizens are to be taken for autonomous moral equals irrespective of their faith commitments, bears a special burden of justification when it pursues policies that tend, and especially policies that intendedly tend, to support or encourage some living arrangements over others.  Even a very retro-minded type (as I myself tend to be in some contexts), for example, might well be troubled by state favoring of 'nuclear' families over 'extended' families.  And certainly a liberally minded type (as I tend even more strongly to be), by way of another example, will be troubled by state judgements to the effect that 'blood is thicker than water,' or any cognate judgement that systematically favors conjugal unions over more 'intentional' family arrangements, including such as are larger than 'nuclear.'

Second, I'm no expert on polygamy, and certainly I don't like the idea of 'two [or n] girls for every boy,' as I guess Jan and Dean had it in the beach movie days.  After all, the corrollary would seem to be 'half [or 1/n] a boy for every girl,' which seems in potential at least to be a bit inequitable, to say the least.  It is interesting, however, that this form of familial arrangement seems to have prevailed in the earlier days during which the Bible was composed, rendering it something of a puzzle that self-described 'Christian conservatives' have racked up so nasty and bigoted a track-record in the 19th century persecution of Mormons in the US.  In any event, my own (very much provisional) tendency is simply to think of polygamy and polyandry as matters of vigilently enforced contract law, in which the informed consent of the truly autonomous contracting parties would constitute the principal legal - not to mention ethical - question raised by any arrangment.  Presumably many who have been engaged in latterday polygamous or polyanderous familial arrangements would be found to have been illegitimately exploited under such a regime, since so many seem to have been pushed into those arrangements prior to having formed autonomous selves.  But so long as the law took the autonomy and equal bargaining power requirements truly seriously, I'd see little obvious reason categorically to prohibit non-nuclear familial arrangments tout court.  (Didn't Fannie Flagg's novel, 'Fried Green Tomatoes,' involve a less problematic such arrangement?  I've not read the novel, but seem to recall being told that it did.)

Another, third thought in effect generalizes the view that I think might be implicit in the first two: One feature that I think constitutive of the peculiar genius of the commonlaw of (business) partnership is the fact that a p'ship can simply evolve into being, out of the temporally extended behavior of the parties to a p'ship-like relation.  There need be no formal agreement in writing or even in speech.  People can 'fall into' partnership, as I often think of it.  It occurred to me last night, in thinking more on this subject, that the old institution of 'commonlaw marriage' might then have constituted a straightforward counterpart in the realm of domestic arrangement.  I'll have to ask Eduardo's, Steve's and my splendid colleague (and active Episcopalian), Cynthia Bowman, for further clarification on this, as she's truly expert on the subject.  But in any event, if the speculation is correct, then just as a commonlaw business p'ship can include more than two p'ners, perhaps a commonlaw domestic p'ship should be able to do so as well, so long as the 'capacity to consent' is as verifiably present in the one case as in the other.  And if so, then there would seem no reason not to permit statutory domestic p'ship to do likewise, again as in the case of (now statutory) business p'ship.  The potential legal and moral issues involved seem to be much the same, after all -- all of them straightforward contractual issues so far as 'internal,' governance relations are concerned, and straightforward tort and b'ruptcy issues so far as 'external,' third party relations are concerned.  It's all about the special vulnerabilities to which people internal and external to p'ships become prone in virtue of the p'ship relation itself.  It's not clear to me that such vulnerabilities can only be dealt with by categorically requiring all p'ships to have no more than two members, let alone to heterosexual members.  The only possible argument to the contrary that comes to mind would sound in the infeasibility, as an adminstrative matter, of effectively policing the bona fide informed consent of the putatively autonomous parties.  (Note that a similar argument seems to be proferred by opponents of doctor-assisted suicide.  The claim is that it's just not feasible for the state to ensure bona fide consent.  Is this true?  It seems to me this might constitute the proverbial $64k question here.)

That segues into a fouth and final thought for now.  As just noted, business p'ship law is largely about the obligations the p'ners incur to one another and to third parties by dint of the relations inter se that they fall into, given that those relations give rise to new vulnerabilities.  Presumably commonlaw marriage and domestic p'ship law have been and would be largely the same, at least in part, irrespective of the number of parties to the 'relational contract' involved.  Insofar as presentday domestic p'ship law is instead about benefits from fellow p'ners and from third parties to which p'ners become entitled by dint of their relations to their p'ners (inheritance, insurance, hospital visitation rights, etc.), well, that's long been statutorily determined on an ad hoc basis, so far as I can tell.  I see no reason why that would not continue, with various commonsense adjustments made in response to unanticipated problems that arise in the face of the sundry alternative domestic arrangements that might develop, were we to recognize domestic p'ships that included more than the now most familiar dyadic and 'nuclear familial' forms.

Thoughts?

Cross-Posted on ReligiousLeftLaw

Neutrality in Hiring for Mission

Several MOJ contributors commented (here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here) on Marquette University’s decision to first offer and then to revoke its offer to Jodi O’Brien to serve as the University’s dean of the College of Arts and Sciences.

 

Now comes this story (here and here) according to which Seton Hall University is no longer considering Msgr. Stuart Swetland for the presidency of the University.  Although he was one of two finalists, and then the sole remaining candidate after the other person withdrew, the search committee determined that it would no longer consider Msgr. Swetland.  This was reportedly due to the “strong resistance from some on the faculty to hiring an orthodox Catholic to lead the school.”

 

I am certain that all readers of MOJ will see in the combined actions of Marquette and Seton Hall a judicious neutrality with respect to Catholic identity and mission – just what Ex Corde Ecclesiae called for, right?

Wednesday, August 11, 2010

Liturgy on a "Catholic law blog" -- Blame Hobbes

A few days ago, I responded here to some correspondents and commenters who wondered why in the world considerations about liturgy and ecclesiology belong on a "Catholic law blog."  Well, one might justly ask in the same breath why Hobbes included virtually the entirety of parts Parts III and IV of Leviathan.  I think it's fair to say (following Edwin Curley) that Hobbes wanted to pull down all or most of the churches.  The author of Leviathan wasn't content with such wholesale devastation, however; he goes in for more detailed destruction as well, as in this passage in in Leviathan xliv, 11: "But (seeing for the frequency of pretending the change of nature in their consecrations, it cannot be esteemed a work extraordinary) it is no other than a conjuration or incantation, whereby they would have men to believe an alteration of nature that is not (contrary to the testimony of man's sight and of all the rest of his senses).  As, for example, when the priest -- instead of consecrating bread and wine to God's peculiar service in the sacrament of the Lord's Supper, which is but a separation of it from the common use, to signify (that is, to put men in mind of) their redemption by the passion of Christ, whose body was broken and blood shed upon the cross for our transgressions -- pretends that by saying of the words of our Saviour, This is my body, and this is my blood, the nature of bread is no more there, but his very body (notwithstanding there appeareth not to the sight or other sense of the receiveer anything that appeareth not before the consecration)."  This denial of transubstantiation comes smackdab in the middle of the greatest state-building effort of all time!

It's important that the Eucharistic liturgy and its site be in the varied and appropriate ways beautiful, which is why in my judgment so many (though my no means all) of the recent developments in terms of church architecture, music, art, iconography, and the like have been so unfortunate and damaging.  But from this it does not follow that the final judgment on a liturgy should be made with the five senses Hobbes brought to bear.  Demands for what the eyes and ears can register lead in the direction Hobbes brilliantly indicated.  No one -- expect a Hobbesian -- should be opposed to the faithful's *participating* in the liturgy, but it's another question entirely what form(s) true participation can or must take.

The most important political philosopher of modernity saw with perfect clarity why the Catholic Mass had to be reduced to just so many physical manifestations.  I think it's a fortiori that liturgy -- especially defense of the Catholic theology of liturgy -- has a place on MOJ.  You can blame it on Hobbes.