[MOJ readers may find this interesting.]
April 4, 2007
A moment with...
Walter F.
Murphy
Walter F. Murphy, the McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence,
emeritus, returned to Princeton in early March for a symposium on his new book,
Constitutional Democracy: Creating and Maintaining a Just Political Order,
which explores the lessons of constitution-making from ancient Greece to today.
The book is being hailed as a masterwork capping a distinguished career. Murphy
spoke with PAW contributor Merrell Noden ’78 after the conference.
You said that you are on a terrorist watch list and so were stopped by
airport security on the way to this event at Princeton.
Why?
Yes. I’m a retired colonel in the Marine Corps [awarded the Purple Heart and
Distinguished Service Cross], which would indicate that I’m probably not a
terrorist. But I did speak against Bush [atPrincetonlast September]. That’s the only reason I can give.
You argue in your book that the Constitution is open-ended about who
should interpret it.
It isn’t judges alone who should interpret the Constitution, but presidents
and members of Congress ... and also the electorate. By 1936 the Supreme Court
had declared unconstitutional almost every important part of Franklin D.
Roosevelt’s New Deal. He ran for re-election and he carried 46 states. That was
just a stinging [electoral] rebuke to the Court.
Speaking of presidents, George W. Bush has twice sworn to “preserve,
protect, and defend” the Constitution. How’s he doing?
Poorly. He has said, “I am the decider” and ignored congressional statutes.
Recently, he said he would go to the courts for warrants to wiretap. But for
four-plus years he said he wouldn’t, and his excuse was so lame as to be
totally unbelievable. He said it would take too long. Well, there’s a special
court set up that meets in secret, designed to make sure that what Richard
Nixon did would never happen again. While I’m not an originalist, I think
you’ve got to take a lot of what people like Madison and Hamilton said very seriously.
And in the Federalist Papers, Madison said if all power is concentrated in the hands of a single person, a single
office, or a single branch of government, you’ve got the definition of tyranny.
I have chided some of my originalist friends, who say, look to an
originalist understanding. The objective these [framers] apparently shared was
a determination to prevent the recurrence of what the British called “writs of
assistance” — where the executive could search and seize without a judicial
warrant. It’s the classic thing that the Fourth Amendment was designed to
prevent! But I have not heard one single originalist raise that objection against
Bush’s policies. They raised it against Johnson, against the Supreme Court. Not
against Bush.
What sparked your interest in the Constitution?
Mine was generated by an undergraduate course in constitutional law, which I
found fascinating. I went off to graduate school at [the University of] Chicago without intending to study it. But a number of things happened. I fell in with
a marvelous professor. And also it turned out that some school desegregation
cases were coming up in Charleston [S.C., where Murphy grew up], and some voting-rights cases, too. One of my
neighbors in Charleston was a
federal judge who suddenly had a spate of cases before him. He decided for the
blacks and was ostracized from the local community. Somebody fired a shot
through his window at night.
Were you aware of all that ugliness when you were growing up?
Being a white Irish Catholic in the deep South, in the Bible Belt, I felt a
lot of discrimination. When Kennedy was assassinated, my mother, who was still
teaching high school in South Carolina,
said she received a note from the principal on that Friday afternoon that said,
“John F. Kennedy has been assassinated. Please announce this to your students,
and please instruct them that they shall not applaud.”
I was denied admission to Princeton as an
undergraduate. I was first in my class at a Catholic high school and won a
National Merit Scholarship. I got a letter from the admissions committee
saying, “We think you’d be happier at a Catholic school.”
You ultimately did go to a Catholic university, to Notre Dame, and
you’ve written three novels in which religion plays a significant role. Are you
a religious person?
I’m a Catholic of sorts. I like to think I’m a Catholic, but I’m sure the
pope would look on me as a heretic. [Supreme Court Justice Antonin] Nino
Scalia, who’s an old friend, very intelligent with a great sense of humor — we
sometimes can go 10 minutes without shaking fingers at each other! — claims I’m
a “cafeteria Catholic,” meaning I pick and choose. And he’s right. He says my
attitude on birth control is wrong. But on the death penalty, he doesn’t take
the Catholic position. He’s cafeteria, too. We just have different selections.
Wednesday, April 18, 2007
Over at Balkinization, there are two commentaries on today's PBA ruling (Gonzales v. Carhart) that you should read. Jack Balkin challenges the ruling's connection to the state's interest in protecting human life. (This relates directly to John O'Callaghan's earlier comment.) An excerpt:
The Court emphasizes Casey's holding that states have legitimate interests in protecting potential life throughout the pregnancy. The Court uses this interest to justify the ban on intact D&E. But there is a strange lack of fit between the interest asserted and the means used to further it. Banning intact D&E does not save a single fetus' life. Rather, it requires doctors to use standard (non-intact) forms of D&E or, as the Court at one point suggests, to inject the fetus with a chemical that kills it and then to remove the fetus intact. The actual interest the Court is asserting is not the interest in protecting potential life but rather an interest in not having the life of fetuses ended in ways that the legislature regards as particularly gruesome. That might be a legitimate interest (pace Lawrence v. Texas), but it is not the interest in potential life recognized in Casey.
Michael Stokes Paulsen criticizes the "pernicious" doctrine of stare decisis, observing:
The true ground for the decision in Gonzales v. Carhart is that Stenberg v. Carhart was crushingly and horribly wrong, as a matter of first principles of constitutional understanding. But whether one agrees with this view or not, that is the issue. Is there anyone -- anyone on the planet -- who thinks that Gonzales v. Carhart and Stenberg v. Carhart were both right? Is not this an observation on which liberals and conservatives can agree?