Beliefnet has a fascinating interview with Richard Dawkins. An excerpt:
You criticize intelligent design, saying that "the theistic answer"--pointing to God as designer--"is deeply unsatisfying"--presumably you mean on a logical, scientific level.
Yes, because it doesn’t explain where the designer comes from. If they’re going to emphasize the statistical improbability of biological organs—"these are so complicated, how could they have evolved?"--well, if they’re so complicated, how could they possibly have been designed? Because the designer would have to be even more complicated.
Now I'm sure I lack half the brain power of Richard Dawkins, but this seems to be a distinctly unsatisfactory answer. Of course the designer would have to be more complicated. And of course we cannot explain where the designer comes from. The notion of God, it seems to me, flows from our conviction that there must be an entity that stands over everything, above, beyond, and prior to it all. Nature is not nearly as satisfying as the ultimate source of everything because nature cannot not stand above and beyond itself; if the first appearance of the natural universe has a cause (and how could it not?), it makes much more sense (to me) to identify it as a supernatural designing force beyond comprehension than as a random natural occurrence beyond comprehension.
Another excerpt:
Obviously, a lot of people find the theistic answer satisfying on another level. What do you see as the problem with that level?
What other level?
At whatever level where people say the idea of God is very satisfying.
Well, of course it is. Wouldn’t it be lovely to believe in an imaginary friend who listens to your thoughts, listens to your prayers, comforts you, consoles you, gives you life after death, can give you advice? Of course it’s satisfying, if you can believe it. But who wants to believe a lie? . . . .
How would you feel if your daughter became religious in the future?
Well, that would be her decision and obviously she’s her own person, she’s free to do whatever she likes. I think she’s much too intelligent to do that, but that’s her decision.
This exchange gives some grounding to Gregg Easterbrook's charge that:
Dawkins complains . . . that so many people believe things about science that are off the wall--for example, that early humans co-existed with dinosaurs--because their science educations are poor. He’ll get no argument from me on that. But I suspect one reason so many Americans have a poor understanding of evolutionary theory is that overbearing figures such as Dawkins talk down to them and act contemptuous of their religious beliefs. So people respond--perhaps quite rationally--by screening out the views of scientists whose motives they distrust. In this regard, it is telling that polls show Americans overwhelmingly accept many findings of modern research, such as the theories of relativity and of cosmic expansion. The scientists who favor these ideas generally aren’t in the habit of mocking peoples’ faiths, and so they are believed by the general public. If Dawkins’s professional goal is “public understanding of science,” he is a flop, seemingly trying his best to make worse what he is supposed to fix.
Rob
Wednesday, December 7, 2005
On the topic of allowing the surrounding culture to define what it means to be the body of Christ, here is reason #312 why I do not attend a "seeker-sensitive" megachurch.
Rob
Tuesday, December 6, 2005
Rick asks whether Kant's "persons are ends, not means" dictum really works as a basis for opposing cloning without the assistance of religious arguments. I agree that a religious worldview provides a much richer foundation for opposing cloning, but for those who do not accept the premises of a religious worldview, Kant may be the only game in town. And if the only viable choices in the public discourse over cloning are a religious worldview and a well-intentioned utilitarianism, I'm afraid that the latter may come out on top more often than not. I'd welcome Kantian secularists to the conversation with open arms.
This leads to a broader question regarding the benefit we gain from establishing the shallowness of non-religious foundations of human rights. (And thus may best be directed at Michael Perry and others who have thought more deeply than I have about this area.) I see the obvious benefit if the religious voices are being deprived of a place at the table, but absent that, don't we want to ensure that the table is open to as many foundational premises as possible, religious and non-religious alike, provided that they are advocating for views that embody Kant's dictum?
Rob
UPDATE: Oglethorpe University politics prof Joe Knippenberg has sent me his fascinating essay, "Liberalism and Religion: The Case of Kant," in which he argues that:
Kant’s [work suggests] that if liberalism is to avoid overweening and prideful “Prometheanism,” there must be some sort of insistence upon human finitude. Human beings who are unaware of their fallibility and finitude might place too much stock in their own efforts to transform nature and human nature. In so doing, they might (in Kantian terms) be tempted to regard others merely as means to their own ends. Thus if liberalism is not to give way to what was once called the totalitarian temptation, it must pay heed in theory and in practice to this human fallibility and finitude. Kant’s treatment of religion is . . .a finely tuned attempt both to insist upon human finitude and to avoid the despair and lassitude that might accompany that recognition.
If anyone would like a copy of the essay, please contact me and I'll forward it to you.
Thursday, December 1, 2005
Jonathan Watson joins our ongoing conversation on homosexual priests:
There is one thought on MOJ which has shown itself in bits and pieces, but which is never outrightly discussed, and that is the question of this document being both a warning to seminaries and a reaction-by-confirmation to the scandals involving homosexual priests. This is the elephant in the closet to which MOJ commentators haven't spoken.
Father Richard John Neuhaus writes: "[T]he Church pastorally cares and prays for people who struggle with disordered desires. But she should not jeopardize the mission of the priesthood by ordaining those who are thought likely to succumb to such desires." Nor, I suspect, those who hold that such desires are normal and normative (supporting a "gay" culture). It should also be noted that gay culture in the majority of the world is not supportive of monogamy in any real way, and so supporting that culture would be to promote promoscuity.
Canon 1029 of the Code of Canon Law states on the ordination of priests that: "Only those are to be promoted to orders who, in the prudent judgment of their own bishop or of the competent major superior, all things considered, have integral faith, are moved by the right intention, have the requisite knowledge, possess a good reputation, and are endowed with integral morals and proven virtues and the other physical and psychic qualities in keeping with the order to be received." I suspect that under physical and psychic qualities falls not only homosexuality, but also sexual addictions, and other things which the Church considers to be disorders.
I remember vaguely the journal articles and discussions spurred by selective fertilization by blind and deaf individuals seeking to have a blind or deaf child. The danger with normalizing that which is not normal is that the individuals who do need help will not receive it. The Vatican, clearly in the minority in this world, believes that supporting a gay culture is trying to do precisely that - normalizing something inherently unnatural. Doing so might prevent homosexuals from receiving treatment or assistance otherwise needed.