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Wednesday, January 6, 2010

Some more thoughts in response to Prof. Wertheimer

 I appreciate Prof. Wertheimer's response to my last post on the U.K. decision.  She is correct, I think, to remind us that one danger to keep in view whenever one thinks about public funding of religious organizations and their work is the possibility that the regulatory strings which are often attached to this funding may undermine the organizations' ethos and mission.  It is also important to remember, though, that there is no reason, in principle, why the political authority must attach such strings to (say) school vouchers, or even to direct funding of religious schools (which do, after all, provide the political community with a valuable "secular" product).

Prof. Wertheimer says that "the problem here . . . is that access to a publicly-funded education in a Jewish school is being limited by one branch of the religion, resulting in the exclusion of members of other branches."  That could be a problem, if the government is denying funds or public support to other Jewish schools (schools that apply different standards), or making it difficult for such schools to open, or requiring publicly funded schools to employ Orthodox standards.  But, I do not see why -- in principle -- the fact that the school (which, while it is publicly supported, is, I assume, non-state) employs a standard that, in practice, "exclu[des] . . . members of other branches" is a problem.

Finally, Prof. Wertheimer writes:

[T]his entire discussion seems to underline the wisdom of keeping government and religion apart.  The simplest answer--and one that eliminates any risk of government interference in religion--may be that the government should cease paying for or financially supporting religious schools in the first place.  If the government were not supporting the schools, the problem of government interference in religious standards would not arise, and the parochial schools of Britain could set their own admission criteria without any government oversight.

Like Patrick Brennan, I am entirely committed to the wisdom of respecting the distinctiveness, and the independence, of political and religious authority.  To distinguish between "church" and "state", though -- as we should -- is not to rule out cooperation between the two on matters of shared concern (e.g., education), nor is it to imagine that "government" and "religion" should (or can) be kept apart.  Because political communities are inhabited by human being, and because most human beings are, and probably will continue to be, formed and motivated by religious communities and commitments, the goal needs to be the construction of policy that respects religious liberty, and enforces political equality, not a regime that attempts to impose on human persons an unhealthy (and, again, impossible) dis-integration of religious faith and involvement in the political community.

Is it the "simplest answer" -- "one that eliminates any risk of government interference in religion" to say "that the government should cease paying for or financially supporting religious schools in the first place"?  Perhaps.  Isn't it even simpler, though to say government should cease paying for all education (rather than constructing a system where some schools are funded and others -- religious ones -- are not)?  In any event, the removal of public support would not, I fear, "eliminate[] any risk of government interference in religion".  Even if religious schools do not accept public funds, there are many who believe that they should be required to observe the same non-discrimination rules that (appropriately) constrain governments.

In any event, I appreciate the conversation with Prof. Wertheimer.

UPDATE:  MOJ friend (and expert in U.K. human-rights law) Aidan O'Neill sends in this:

I’ve been following the commentary on the JFS School decision on MoJ and I fear that from the comments so far you have all got it rather wrong in viewing this case as having anything to do with relations between the State and Synagogue/Church/Mosque/Temple and/or the wisdom of strict disestablshmentarianism

 

In the first instance, the case is an intra-Jewish dispute brought by one private individual against another private institution.  It does not matter . . . that the school was a recognised “faith school” and received some funding and financial support from the Government, nor does it matters whose ancestors founded and paid for it.   The case could have been brought were the school a private one wholly independent of any Government funding (e.g. in English counter-intuitive terminology “a public school”).   The prohibition on race discrimination applies to private schools just as much as those receiving public funding.

 

Secondly, the case was brought under the Race Relations Act, a UK statute which was passed in the early 1970s around about the same time – and a part often same social movement – which brought the UK the statutory prohibition against sex discrimination and the right to equal pay.  The notion of “race” has for many years been given a very broad and purposive construction by the courts on the basis that racism is considered to be a great evil.  This has resulted in for example the Scottish appeal court finding in BBC Scotland v. Souter, 2001 SC 458; [2001] IRLR 150, IH – and contrary to the position I was arguing for as counsel for the BBC n the case - that the Scots and English are to be regarded as different/distinct races for the purposes of the legislation - as are gypsies/travellers/Romany.

 

But there was, for years, no express prohibition against discrimination on grounds of religious belief or practice and so, anxious to plug that supposed gap in the legislation, the courts held that Sikhs and Jews could be said to be distinct ethnic groups (but not Rastafarians).  So the statutory prohibition against anti-Semitism in this country has, faute de mieux, been held to be encompassed in the prohibition against race discrimination.

 

The prohibited grounds for discrimination have in more recent years since been expanded to include disability, sexual orientation, religion or belief, age, and trans-gender/sex, but the older law still applies and it was this older law which was being applied in the JFS case.

 

The problem was that the JFS (Jewish Free School) adhered to an admissions policy which avowedly took into account, not practice or beliefs but (matrilineal) descent from what UK law already recognises as a particular ethnic group.  In effect the protection given against anti-Semitic/Judaic words and action is double-edged ( or one might describe it as blindly impartial) in that it not only does it prohibit anti-Semitic action but might be said to prevent explicitly philo-Semitic action. None of the judges were happy with this result and clearly wished that they had not been involved in this inter-familial/religious dispute but they have to apply the law.   If the school had applied faith/belief/practice criterion (e.g. coming from an observant house-hold) its admissions policies would have passed muster.   But in applying a policy based on in effect the ethnicity of the mother of the pupil – albeit for religious reasons – the school breached race discrimination law.

 

I understand, I think, what Aidan is saying, but also think that we can concede that the U.K. court "applied the law" and that the relevant law here -- which imposes on this religious organization a distinction that the organization does not appear to endorse (i.e., "being Jewish" and "having certain Jewish beliefs") -- is troubling.  Thanks to Aidan for writing in.

2009 Law School Survey of Student Engagement

The latest Law School Survey of Student Engagement is getting press for its finding that more law-school students (even those with high debt loads) are responding to the economic situation by seeking more lower-paying public interest jobs.  Since the higher-paying jobs are becoming more scarce, that's hardly a surprising finding.  But it's certainly something that ought to be in the forefront of our minds, as law professors, when we think about the sorts of things Rob raises concerning tuition increases, student debt loads, and the "mission" of Catholic law schools.

And some of the other findings ought to present personal challenges to all of us, whether at Catholic law schools or not, committed to living our faith commitments in our professional lives.  As summarized in today's Chronicle of Higher Education":

Among the report's other findings:

  • Students who are not involved in extracurricular activities study less than their peers and more frequently come to class unprepared.
  • More than one-third of all law students say that their legal education places little emphasis on acting with integrity in personal and professional settings.
  • Only about half of all law students frequently receive feedback from their professors that is helpful to their academic development.
  • One in 10 law students say they never receive feedback from professors that stimulates their interest in the study or practice of law.
  • Male students are more likely than female students to receive oral feedback from professors, both during class and outside of class.

The Political Morality of Liberal Democracy [Update]

Michael J. Perry, Emory University (School of Law); University of San Diego (School of Law and Joan B. Kroc School of Peace Studies, 2009-2012)

Abstract:
 
    
At the beginning of my career as a law professor, in the mid-1970s, I was principally engaged by—and I remain engaged by—constitutional controversies closely aligned with moral controversies: the constitutional controversy, for example, over laws banning abortion. (I have also been engaged by the related question of the courts' proper role--especially the U.S. Supreme Court's proper role--in resolving such controversies.) I was soon confronted by the question of the proper relationship of morality to constitutional law. Because for most citizens of the United States morality is religiously grounded, another question—one that would become for me a scholarly obsession—quickly came into view: the proper role of religion in the politics and law of a liberal democracy. Before long I was in the grip of this large question: Can any worldview that is not religious support—embed—the twofold claim to which liberal democracy is, as such—as liberal democracy—committed, namely, that each and every human being has equal inherent dignity and is inviolable?

I can now see, in retrospect, that each of the principal questions that have engaged me over the course of my career concerns one or another aspect of the political morality of liberal democracy; in particular, each question concerns either (a) the grounding, (b) the content, (c) the implications for one or another political-moral controversy, or (d) the judicial enforcement of the political morality of liberal democracy.

In my new book, The Political Morality of Liberal Democracy (Cambridge Univ. Press, 2010), I address all four aspects: grounding, content, implications—in particular, implications for the political-moral controversies over abortion and same-sex marriage—and judicial enforcement. In the book, I am particularly concerned with the proper--and properly limited--role of religious faith in the politics and law of a liberal democracy.

Those interested in seeing the table of contents and reading the introduction to The Political Morality of Liberal Democracy can download this document, here.

[Update:  The paper is *now* available for download.  Sorry about that.]

Tuesday, January 5, 2010

Why Ellen Wertheimer is certainly wrong

Ellen Wertheimer asserts that she has demonstrated the "wisdom " (sic) of keeping religion and government "apart."  Rather than belabor my point, I'll just note that some *responsible* and *respected*  theories of "government" teach that, while church and state are indeed distinct ("two there are"), government's role *includes* serving (because government is all about service, at least in the Catholic tradition as I understand it) people, including those who practice "religion," i.e.  are religious (including by being and operating as church, including by running distinctive schools).  Yes, the *responsible* and *respected* theories I allude to are contested, but no more so than the one(s) on which Prof. Wertheimer implicitly relies.  QED

Professor Wertheimer Responds to Rick

Professor Ellen Wertheimer sends this response to Rick's reaction to her earlier comment on the UK decisio: holding that a Jewish school could not apply Orthodox rabbinical standards as to who is Jew in its admissions policies:

It is certainly possible that the court and the Orthodox community that seems to have set the standards for admission to the school are talking at cross-purposes.  Perhaps the problem is that the governmental entity that supports the schools allowed the use of the Orthodox definition of who is Jewish in the first place.  Under the Orthodox definition, a practicing and confessional Catholic who has one Jewish grandparent is a Jew if that grandparent were his or her mother's mother, while a practicing Jew whose mother's mother converted to Judaism in a Reform ceremony is not a Jew, even though the other three of his or her grandparents are Jewish, and even though both of his or her parents practice that religion.   Of course, I do not question the right of any branch of Judaism to set the standards of who is a Jew in the first place; the problem here, though, is that access to a publicly-funded education in a Jewish school is being limited by one branch of the religion, resulting in the exclusion of members of other branches.

In any event, and be that as it may, this entire discussion seems to underline the wisdom of keeping government and religion apart.  The simplest answer--and one that eliminates any risk of government interference in religion--may be that the government should cease paying for or financially supporting religious schools in the first place.  If the government were not supporting the schools, the problem of government interference in religious standards would not arise, and the parochial schools of Britain could set their own admission criteria without any government oversight.  Of course, the principles of separation of church and state that we follow in this country do not necessarily translate to Britain, which has (in theory) an established religion, but it does not follow that the government of the UK has to pay for parochial education for any of its subjects.

(Still) further thoughts on the U.K. decision

With all due respect, the comments of Prof. Wertheimer only increase my concerns about the decision we are discussing.  I do not see it as reducing our reasons for concern that the mother's conversion to Judaism was acceptable to some branches of Judaism, but not others.  If the (non-state) religious institution in question -- one that, I am assuming, decided to embrace the Orthodox standards -- applies, in keeping with its own understanding of an authentic Jewish "ethos", those Orthodox standards, it strikes me as (way) out of line for the government to (in effect) decree that, in the government's view, the Orthodox standards are less worthy of deference than (say) Reform standards, or that "him that says, is."  (In expressing these concerns, I am -- of course -- not presuming to have an opinion on which branch of Judaism correctly understands what it means to be, and what is required to be, Jewish.)

Further Thoughts on UK Decision

Professor Ellen Wertheimer at Villanova Law School shares these thoughts in response to our recent posts on the UK decision holding that a Jewish school could not apply Orthodox rabbinical standards as to who is Jew in its admissions policies:

I want to caution those on Mirror of Justice against over-reading the decision.  As I understand the case, the mother of the student at issue had in fact converted to Judaism in a ceremony that was acceptable to Reconstructionist, Reform, and Conservative Judaism.  It was not an Orthodox conversion, which meant that the Orthodox branch of Judaism did not view her as Jewish.

My father, as it happens, was a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany.  For him, the idea that Jews were a race was utterly repellent as having been the basis Hitler used for the genocide that he planned and carried out.  At least some of the original founders of Israel agreed with this.  When asked, "who is a Jew,?" the response was "Him that says, is."

In any event, the opinion rejects any principle that would base religious identity on heredity,  focusing instead on belief and action. 

Some thoughts in response to Susan

Thanks to Susan for her response to my post about the (very interesting) UK case holding that a Jewish school could not, in keeping with laws against race-discrimination, apply Orthodox rabbinical standards as to who is Jew in its admissions policies.  Susan writes:

This case involved a child who was not considered Jewish because his mother converted to Judaism after his birth.  Except in that technical sense, the child was Jewish in the sense of being raised in a Jewish home by parents who clearly wanted him educated into their faith.  It is hard to see how keeping such a child out of the school is necessary to maintain the school's "ethos."

In my view, this is one of those "who decides" question, rather than a question about whether I -- I'm not Jewish, let alone a Jewish authority -- think that "keeping such a child out of the school is necessary to maintain the school's 'ethos'."  If the question is "what decisions are necessary, by a religious institution, to preserve that religious institution's ethos," I'm reluctant to let civil authority have much (if any) of a role in second-guessing the answer that the religious institution gives.  What, after all, would be the justification for such second-guessing (even if we suspect that the religious institution's answer is (by what standard?) wrong)?

Susan also writes, with respect to the commentator, Mr. Moore, to whom I linked in my post:

Although Rick didn't quote this part of Moore's piece, I was also bothered by Moore's treatment of the difficulty to deciding when the law should interfere with religious decisions.  For Moore the answer is clearly no in this case, but clearly yes, when the issue is "resist[ing] Islamist attempts to advance the cause of sharia as a way of creating a parallel legal order (oppressive of women) in this country."  Why is it so clear that these should be treated differently?  Why are the school children deprived of a particular education less oppressed than women under sharia?  Maybe there is a good difference, but demontrating that requires more than a mere assertion.

I agree that more than a "mere assertion" is required, but it does seem to me that, at the end of the day, refusing to second a Jewish school's admissions decision (no child has a right to be educated at particular Jewish -- i.e., non-state -- school, do they?) is importantly different from allowing "Islamist attempt[s]" to operate a parallel legal order in a way that did deprive (say) women of that to which they have a right (i.e., protections against coercion and violence).  No?

A former student of mine, and an MOJ reader, sends in these thoughts:

I think Prof. Stabile is right to recognize that there is or may be a different chain of reasoning used to support hiring Jewish teachers versus admitting Jewish students to this school.   On a foundational level, however, I think both decisions are well rooted in the autonomy proper to private institutions as the West as traditionally recognized it.  A private institution, whether religious, educational, both, or other, worthy of the name chooses its membership itself on whatever basis it deems proper - whether that determination appears imprudent, silly, or "technical" to outsiders.  (I will admit that for myself the school's decision does seem "technical" to the point of being uncharitable and/or divisive.  But I have very little understanding of Jewish culture and maybe this is something important to them.)  The institution does not derive its creative authority from the government but from the individuals that make it up and therefore the government has no business telling the group who it should and should not admit. 

This approach certainly has its costs, as shown here where a young boy, probably very deserving in every other respect, would be denied access to one particular source of a quality education.  But this boy had no claim, in justice, on that education as far as we know.  The school was not built, maintained, and funded by the taxes of his parents, grandparents, or fellow citizens.  He was not defrauded from entrance, he simply didn't meet the explicit if exacting requirements; requirements set up long before his case arose.  There are plenty of other schools around, and it is no great legal tragedy not to get into the school of your desire.  Sad perhaps, but not unjust (not giving to one his due). 

The UK Supreme Court's decision, however, is unjust.  It does not give the religious institution its due.  This decision continues the trend in the West of breaking down the civil society that binds individuals and groups together by a thousand threads and in the aggregate stands as a source of civil authority distinct from the government.  See, e.g. Bowling Alone, It Takes a Family, Democracy in America, etc.  The breakdown of these mediating institutions is a far greater danger to the liberty of that boy than being denied access to a Jewish primary school, however superior its education.  It is even more disturbing that the institution is a religious one, whose entrance requirements are now deemed "racist."

Another reader sends in this:

First, I doubt that Orthodox Jews would agree that their laws, such as those of descent, birth, or kosher dietary laws, could be or should be reduced to "technicalities" that the State is authorized to waive when it desires. Second, and more substantially, what would happen if / when the state does force the school to accept this child? Surely, part of this child's education is that one is Jewish only when a certain set of conditions is met, and "M" will surely realize that, according to the school and likely many of his peers there, he is not, in fact, Jewish.  [Should] the UK government . . . intervene to adjust that part of the curriculum accordingly?

Tricky!  Any thoughts?

Jewish Schools Employing Religious Standards in Admitting Students

Rick talks about the UK case holding that a Jewish school could not apply Orthodox rabbinical standards as to who is Jew in its admissions policies, quoting Charles Moore's critical commentary of the decision.

While I share some hesitation in treating actions like this as race discrimination, I think one needs to do more than Moore does to explain why it is important to allow religious schools to be "free to prefer to admit children from the relevant faith."  More clearly sees no difference between a religious school's preference in hiring teachers of its faith and admitting students of its faith.  Although neither issue strikes me as crystal clear, my inclination is to think the answers to those two questions are not necessarily the same. 

More suggests a student preference is necessary "to maintain the ethos which is so important to its success as a school."  It seems to me hard to make that argument on these facts.  This case involved a child who was not considered Jewish because his mother converted to Judaism after his birth.  Except in that technical sense, the child was Jewish in the sense of being raised in a Jewish home by parents who clearly wanted him educated into their faith.  It is hard to see how keeping such a child out of the school is necessary to maintain the school's "ethos."

Although Rick didn't quote this part of Moore's piece, I was also bothered by Moore's treatment of the difficulty to deciding when the law should interfere with religious decisions.  For Moore the answer is clearly no in this case, but clearly yes, when the issue is "resist[ing] Islamist attempts to advance the cause of sharia as a way of creating a parallel legal order (oppressive of women) in this country."  Why is it so clear that these should be treated differently?  Why are the school children deprived of a particular education less oppressed than women under sharia?  Maybe there is a good difference, but demontrating that requires more than a mere assertion.

 

Discovering God's Love

I am back and my New Year’s resolution is… to blog more!  (Or at least to try…)  As Christmas was approaching, my Focolare house had plans to go upstate to our conference center in order to celebrate with a larger group, but we were also flanking one of the women in my community as she accompanied her mother in her last days.  Sensing that the time was close, we decided to scrap our initial plans so as to facilitate taking turns being together with our friend as she kept vigil over her mom.  I have had many wonderful Christmas Eves in my life, but this was the most beautiful: standing next to my friend as we assured her mother that Jesus and Mary were close to her.  On Christmas morning another group went to be with her… and she left peacefully for heaven on Christmas evening.  The wake and the funeral were filled with this sense of peace.  All of this helped me to discover in a deeper way the meaning of Christmas, which is closely tied to the whole point of a Focolare house: to love one another to the point of receiving the gift of Christ’s presence among us and for the world, “where two or three are gathered in my name…” (Mt. 18:19).  It seems like in these moments that reality takes on an extraordinary depth.  

Then we all shifted gears and went up to the conference center for our annual retreat.  The theme that we are reflecting on this year is the reality of God as love in our lives, and our response to that love.  I realized that when I am in the middle of stuff and the messiness of life—struggles, questions, issues, and just the work of growing in understanding how love can permeate in a deeper way my work in being a member of a community, a scholar, a teacher, a colleague, a daughter, a sister, a friend… often in this process it is not always straightforward to see God’s love at work.  What came to my soul at the end of the retreat was that exchange between Jesus and Martha after Lazarus’s death. (John 11:21-27).  When Jesus says, “Your brother will rise again,” Martha’s first reaction is, I know that will happen—eventually: “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”  Jesus invites her to look again, to recognize the power of his love in her life not just eventually but also right now, standing in front of her: “I am the resurrection and the life.”  I sensed the Jesus was saying also to me, “Do you believe this?”  It was a wonderful invitation to look again, to see all of the ways in which the life of the Risen One is at work right now, even in the midst of the struggles.  Not a bad way to start the new semester! 

So I guess with that, also a New Year’s wish that our little “Mirror of Justice” community can this year discover in a deeper way how in the midst of our conversations in which differences often emerge, and as we engage the messiness of our culture, that we can look again to see all of the ways in which God is loving us, and at work in our lives.  Happy New Year, and happy new semester!  Amy