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Friday, July 20, 2012

Peter Singer and Christian Ethics

I recommend my friend Charles Camosy's new book, "Peter Singer and Christian Ethics: Beyond Polarization."  The book is a creative and helpful reframing of the discourse surrounding Singer's work. 

Camosy is, without doubt, going to take some criticism from those who believe that he is working (too) hard to rehabilitate Singer's reputation in the Christian community.  He is trying to do that, make no mistake.  And while making clear his disagreements with Singer, one will not find much moral outrage in Camosy's tone when confronting some of Singer's truly monstrous (in my view) positions.  In Camosy's defense, though, moral outrage is not his motivation here.  He is walking a very tricky line, urging the Christian community to step back from the categorical demonization of Singer and discern areas of common interest and shared premises without glossing over foundational and unbridgeable differences.  I think he succeeds on that front.  He does not hesitate to point out when Singer's arguments fall short on their own terms, though he writes with an optimism -- with some basis, given some of Singer's recent comments -- that Singer is still a work in progress, and that his thought is trending favorably. 

Even putting the exploration of Singer's work to the side, the book provides an excellent and accessible analysis of current debates surrounding issues such as euthanasia and abortion.  And his chapter on non-human animals makes -- at least for this factory-farm consuming Christian -- for some uncomfortable reading.  It also provides a rather jarring experience, as Camosy seems angrier with his fellow Christians for our total disregard of non-human animals than with Singer for his views on infanticide.  My guess is that this difference is attributable to two factors: 1) Camosy is angered by Christian hypocrisy, and Singer, for all his morally reprehensible views, is no hypocrite; and 2) there is no shortage of anger surrounding the issue of abortion and infanticide, while anger, at least among the Christian community, is virtually non-existent when it comes to our treatment of non-human animals.

It's a provocative book that should be widely read, and one that is worthy of sustained conversation.

Thursday, July 19, 2012

"An Evangelical-Catholic Stand on Liberty"

John Garvey and Philip Ryken have a good piece at WSJ.com, discussing the participation of both Wheaton College and Catholic University in the effort to undo the misguided (and, I think, illegal) HHS mandate.  A bit:

Many Americans disagree with our shared belief in the immorality of abortion.
That is their right. But there should be no dispute about a second point we hold
in common: Religious schools like Wheaton College and Catholic University should have the freedom—guaranteed by the United States Constitution—to carry out our mission in a way that is consistent with our religious principles. . .

A government that fails to heed the cries of its religious institutions
undermines the supports of civil virtue and puts in jeopardy our constitutional
order.

That last point is particularly important.  All freedoms are vulnerable when religious freedom is eroded.  As I argue here and here

"Luck" as the basis of solidarity?

Last night I read a blurb about Harvard President Drew Faust's remarks at the 2012 Baccalaureate Service, and her comments intrigued me enough that I went back and read them in their entirety.  There are some thoughtful insights contained in what she said, to be sure, but I'm struck by the awkwardness of attempting to inspire graduates without any vision of transcendent meaning underlying the universe:

There are roughly 120 million 21-year-olds in the world. There are some 1,551 of you who will get degrees today. There is one of me who arrived here against similar odds. That is how we know the deck was stacked. No matter how hard we have worked or how many obstacles we have overcome, we are all here in some measure through no cause of our own. It started for most of us by being born into what one scientist calls the “legacy world,” the small fraction of the Earth’s population that receives the benefits of fossil fuels. After we passed through that lucky portal there were others. Our parents, our schools, our friends, our health, financial aid, a Maurice Sendak book. Predecessors who fought for access to education. Someone who plucked us up out of nowhere and guided us, or a random event that turned our heads, or moved our hearts. Now here we are, filling this church, inhabiting the ancient vestments of higher learning and all they represent, partly by pure chance, by the imperceptible updraft of inexplicable luck.

The truth is, we are not hardwired to recognize this. We tend to assign a meaning, a logic, even to things that are random or fortuitous.

I don't deny the relevance of "pure chance," though, as a Christian, I'm reluctant to identify its particular imprint with any confidence.  What is troubling, though, is the apparent degree to which the recognition of sheer luck as an animating force in our lives precludes a meaningful sense of vocation.  Not that it precludes a theological shout-out, though:

Perhaps because I am standing here in an imitation of a Puritan minister’s robe, I find myself thinking of what Harvard’s founders would have called “God’s free grace.” Good fortune is not something we have a right to, but something given to us that we have no claim on. We do not earn grace by being better than others, or even by being good. It is bestowed, on any one of us at any moment.

I know the Puritans did not embrace a Catholic understanding of grace, but I'm not sure that they would equate grace with sheer luck.  A gift from God has a foundation in God's love; luck derives from nothing but blind chance. 

In her conclusion, President Faust reminds students that "when you acknowledge luck, you recognize your connection to those who did not have the same opportunities."  I'm all in favor of recognizing our connection to those who did not have the same opportunities we've had, but I don't get there by paying homage to "luck."  How does focusing on random chance bring meaning to my world, much less a degree of meaning that brings my relationship and accountability to others into relief?  We are related to others, and accountable for each other, but not because the world is governed by sheer randomness. 

Saddleback II: What Questions Would You Ask?

Over at Creative Minority Report, Matt Archibold posts (here) that a Saddleback Church Forum for the presidential candidates is in the works for later this year (See the Church Report here).  Archibold recalls the first Saddleback Forum in 2008 when Pastor Rick Warren asked then Senator Barack Obama “When does a baby get human rights?” and Obama’s painful answer – an answer, I should add, in which Obama construed a legal question as one that is either scientific or theological . . . and unanswerable.  Or as Obama memorably put it “Above my pay grade.”

Warren says that the plans are still in the works for this year’s forum with no firm commitments, and Archibold expresses some doubt as to whether the President will actually attend.  Mitt Romney would, I think, want to participate in the event, but would face challenges all his own. 

Assuming that the forum does take place, what questions would MOJ readers like to see posed to candidates Romney and Obama?  Comments open.

 

Another Becket Fund victory for religious freedom

I'm particularly proud today to be a member of the board of directors and the executive committee of the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty.  Founded by Kevin "Seamus" Hasson in 1994, the Becket Fund is committed to defending the religious freedom rights of people of every faith, "from Anglicans to Zorastrians."  True to its mission and principles, the Fund is representing the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, Tennessee in its efforts to build a new mosque to accommodate the growing community it serves.  Unfortunately, these efforts are being opposed by a small but very vocal group of non-Muslim residents who absurdly claim that Islam is not a religion, but is rather a sinister and dangerous political movement, and that therefore the rights of Muslims are not protected under the free exercise guarantee of the First Amendment. Yesterday Chief Judge Todd Campbell of the federal district court in Nashville granted the Becket Fund's request for a temporary restraining order to make possible the completion of the building inspection for the new mosque so that the Muslim community can use the building for its observance of Ramadan, which begins tomorrow evening.  Press release here: http://www.becketfund.org/judgerulesmosque/.  Congratulations to Becket Fund General Counsel Luke Goodrich on this important victory for religious liberty.  Congratulations, too, to the Becket Fund's new president, William Mumma, who has stepped in to take the helm after Seamus stepped aside for health reasons, and to Executive Director Kristina Arriaga.  And, while I'm at it, congratulations to Seamus, whose extraordinary work and witness were recognized a few weeks ago with an honorary degree from the University of Notre Dame.  (Perhaps it would not be out of place here to mention that the Becket Fund does not accept government financial support. It relies for its important work on the generosity of private charitable foundations, such the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation and the John M. Templeton Foundation, and individual donors.)

Belmont Abbey Lawsuit Dismissed on Standing and Ripeness Grounds

Yesterday, the U.S. District Court for the D.C. Circuit dismissed Belmont Abbey College's law suit alleging that the contraception mandate violates RFRA and the First Amendment.  The grounds are lack of standing and ripeness.  The court rejected the government's claims that Belmont Abbey lacked standing because it qualified for "grandfathered" status.  It also rejected the government's claim that any injury to Belmont was insufficiently imminent; the court held that the January 2014 deadline was not "too remote."

But the court accepted the government's claim that Belmont's injury was too speculative because of the government's stated intention to engage in new rulemaking before the expiration of the safe harbor.  It rejected Belmont's claim that "non-binding promises of future rulemaking" can defeat standing, ruling that the government has done more than promise: it has published its plan to amend and it has issued a notice of proposed rulemaking.  "The government," said the court, "has done nothing to suggest that it might abandon its efforts to modify the rule—indeed, it has steadily pursued that course—and it is entitled to a presumption that it acts in good faith."  The court also dismissed the case for lack of ripeness.

There is an interesting feature of the case that appears in the ripeness discussion.  Belmont claimed that the case was ripe because even if the proposed rulemaking goes through, it would not be able to comply without violating its religious beliefs about contraception.  The court said this:

This argument assumes, however, that a particular approach described in the ANPRM—which would require health-insurance issuers to offer group plans without contraceptive coverage to organizations with religious objections while “simultaneously [providing] contraceptive coverage directly to the participants and beneficiaries covered under the organization's plan with no cost sharing,” see 77 Fed.Reg. 16503—will make it into the final rule. Such an assumption is speculative. The ANPRM merely “presents questions and ideas to help shape discussions” regarding how best to accommodate organizations with religious objections to contraceptive coverage. Id. The Notice specifically states that it seeks input on the options it proposes “as well as new ideas to inform the next stage of the rulemaking process.” Id. (emphasis added). The rulemaking process is still in its early stages, and the contents of the final amendment have not yet been decided. It would thus be premature to find that the amendment will not adequately address Plaintiff's concerns.

Belmont tried to resist this holding by claiming that all the government then needs to do to avoid adjudication on an otherwise final rule is to file a notice of proposed rulemaking.  Though the court acknowledged this possibility, and it even said that the "circumstances are slightly less favorable to the agency here" than in another case where this possibility had been raised, it took the government at its word -- or perhaps it is more accurate to say that the court took the government at its promised future word, whatever that word turns out to be.  Dismissal was without prejudice.

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Final thoughts on FCC v. Fox, at least for this round of litigation

I've blogged here before concerning the FCC's and the courts' ongoing effort to settle the legal significance of the FCC's statutory mandate to prevent indecency in the broadcast media.  The Supreme Court's recent decision in this wash-rinse-repeat litigation that is characteristic of administrative law in the US today prompts these thoughts and reactions.

Access to Media and the Formulation of Norms

 

Authority, political discussion and debates, and the presentation of dissenting views all have their proper role in the formulation of norms; moreover, norm making is an important project of the law. Civil society has its law, and the Church has hers. In both of these contexts, the human law maker has an important role to exercise. There was a time when the natural law was the common denominator of both legal systems, i.e., temporal and ecclesial. But in the present age, getting a message to the public often appears to be just as an important element of norm making. This is the case in the civil sector where radio, television, the conventional press, and the internet have important and influential roles in the manner in which the laws that govern temporal society are made. In some ways regarding ecclesial juridical authority, getting the message to the faithful about how norms are made and how they appropriated by the People of God also brings the media into the fray.

On this past Tuesday, July 17, National Public Radio (NPR) broadcast the first of a two-part series concerning governance in the Church. This past Tuesday’s episode was entitled “An American Nun Responds to Vatican Criticism.” [HERE] The guest on this NPR program was Sister Pat Farrell, OSF who is the current President of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) which is the subject of a doctrinal assessment and visitation by the Holy See. In the near future, NPR will have a second broadcast in which Bishop Leonard Blair of Toledo, who is a member of the team that is charged with working with the LCWR on the doctrinal assessment, will be the guest interviewee.

In her interview, Sister Farrell made some important points about the assessment and about religious life and its future, especially in the United States. I realize that time was probably insufficient for her to develop all her remarks as she would have liked, and I further appreciate that what she did say in a lengthy interview will have an impact on how many of the faithful and others think about the principles of Catholicism including norms designed for religious life and fidelity to the Church. While there are many elements of the content of her interview meriting discussion, I would like to comment on a few of her points that require further elaboration. These are not the only ones meriting serious discussion, but they contain, I think, mischaracterizations about the truth of the matters asserted. Consequently, elements of this interview will have an impact on how the faithful and others understand critical normative principles of the Church.

The first point I comment on is the reference made by the interviewer to an past LCWR address which the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith mentioned in its April 2012 report on the LCWR, namely, the keynote speech delivered by Sister Laurie Brink, OP at the 2007 LCWR annual meeting.

The CDF raised concerns about Sister Brink’s address by pointing to an observation that some women religious in the United States are sojourners who have moved beyond the Church or even beyond Jesus. In her interview, Sister Farrell acknowledged that the CDF called attention to the Brink address, and Farrell acknowledged that this Brink remark “is of serious concern to us.” But Sister Farrell also insisted that “it is a very distorted quotation” and “quoted very much out of context from the presentation that was given.” Because of Sister Farrell’s protest, the interview asked if Sister Farrell if she rejected this Brink option characterizing women’s religious life. Farrell asserted that this “would be a very serious distortion” by somehow suggesting that “the majority of women religious… are beyond Jesus and beyond the Church,” so it “is a very egregious and a very serious distortion.”

But I question if this is the case after having reread the Brink address today. Like Sister Farrell and the CDF, the Brink keynote address is a very serious matter necessitating a careful and objective reading of it in its entirety. Having just done this, I realize that there is more to the Brink address than Sister Farrell contended yesterday. In her keynote, Sister Brink suggested that there are at least four “lenses” through which a person can view women’s religious life in the United States today. Although Sister Brink indicated that there could be other lenses pertaining to “felt experience” of religious life and how it is understood by some individuals, her keynote identified and discussed four that she considered viable methods of understanding women’s religious life today. Consequently, she by no means dismissed this sojourner model that is beyond the Church and Jesus; moreover, she clearly explained that for some women religious, “[r]eligious titles, institutional limitations, ecclesiastical authorities no longer fit [some] congregation[s], which in most respects [are] Post-Christian.” Brink was clear that this “lens” “embraced the renewal in the 1970s.” Brink also indicated that one illustration of these “courageous women” who are sojourners can be found in the Benedictine Women of Madison. A few years ago two Benedictine sisters in Madison WI asked to be released from their vows, and this request was granted by the appropriate ecclesiastical authorities. These former Benedictine nuns then transferred their community’s property in piecemeal fashion back to a corporation of which they were the officers. But what became of the canonical requirements dealing with the alienation of ecclesiastical property is obscured. Then they accepted into their community a woman, who is a Presbyterian Minister, who now presides at the “sharing of the Bread of Life around a common table” at their Sunday worship in a community that purportedly follows the Rule of Saint Benedict. I wonder if this is really an acceptable model “of integrity, insight, and courage” as Sister Brink contends that it is.

While Sister Brink did indicate a personal preference for the “reconciliation” lens which she subsequently developed in her keynote, it is difficult in some respects to see how this “lens” differs in substance from prime elements of the “sojourner” lens. In the context of the “reconciliation” lens, Sister Brink contends that the “theologically educated… American laity” make the hierarchy “more edgy.” I do not think that is what makes the ecclesiastical authorities “edgy”; rather, I think the source of the particular problem here is defining the substance of this theological education and in what it believes and in what it does not. In her defense of the “reconciliation” lens Brink argues that “young Catholics see themselves as spiritual and not necessarily tied to traditional religion”; however, she avoids addressing the candid question that emerges: what makes these “young Catholics” Catholic if they aren’t tied to Catholicism? Yet this contention seems to be a part of her preferred model of Catholicism and religious life. In her “reconciliation” model, she also complains about “Catholic theologians… denied academic freedom.” Really? In fact, do not the very academicians who want “academic freedom” for themselves deny it to those who are considered “traditional” and “orthodox”? That is my “felt experience”; moreover, it is the “felt experience” of others, too.

A final remark needs to be made in Brink’s defense of the “reconciliation” model: she asserts that, “Gays and lesbians desire to participate as fully human, fully sexual Catholics within their parishes.” I don’t think the problem is with anyone participating in their parish and sacramental life regardless of their orientation. But the real question posed by the Brink address is this: what does it mean to be “fully sexual” knowing that particular manifestations of human sexuality in both heterosexual and homosexual contexts are sinful? At this point Sister Brink contends that, “The hierarchy of our Church is right to feel alarmed.” On that point, she is correct; moreover, the hierarchy are also justified in concluding, after careful thought, that alarm is warranted.

In the conclusion of her “reconciliation lens,” it is clear that Brink stated that it is the hierarchy who are to be forgiven and not the LCWR or any of its corporate or individual members. As “prophets”, women religious, in her estimation, are justified in proclaiming the “hierarchy’s abuses of power, shameful behavior and deafness to [women religious’s] cries for equality.” If this is the model of reconciliation, I wonder what is her model of confrontation?

But I must return to a couple of other points of Sister Farrell’s interview. Regarding the Church’s teaching on human sexuality, Sister Farrell contended that this needs to be reevaluated, as these teachings cannot “remain static and really need[] to be reformulated, rethought, in light of the world we live in…” This statement is a recipe not for the search for universal truth about the essence and nature of the human person but about promoting the acceptance of subjectivism, personalism, and historicism that can serve as the justification for what anyone wants to do in the venue of human sexuality.

When the interviewer brought up the issue of women’s ordination, Sister Farrell recalled and defended the fact that the LCWR favored women’s ordination in 1977. She did this earnestly and innocently by contending that this declaration was “before there was a Vatican letter saying that there is a definitive Church position against the ordination of women.” It is not clear by “Vatican letter” if she meant Pope John Paul II’s Apostolic Letter Mulieris Dignitatem (1988) or his Apostolic Letter Ordinatio Sacerdotalis (1994). If she meant either of these, she would be correct in stating that the 1977 position of the LCWR predates these letters of Blessed John Paul. However, she fails to acknowledge that the 1977 position in support of women’s ordination was in direct conflict with the Pio-Benedictine Code of Canon Law (c. 968) then in effect; with Pope Paul VI’s response to the Archbishop of Canterbury concerning the Ordination of Women to the Priesthood (1975); and with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’s Declaration Inter Insigniores (1976).

When the interview turned to the matter of whether the LCWR is “pro-life” or not, Sister Farrell quick defended the organization by stating that, “Religious have clearly given our lives to supporting life… Our works are very much pro-life.” But then she registered the LCWR’s concern that “any policy that is more pro-fetus than actually pro-life” trumps “the rights of the unborn” over “the rights of all of those who are already born.” Her statement fails Catholic teaching in two critical ways. The first is that there is a continuum of human life which includes pre-birth and post-birth phases, but these two dimensions of human existence are inextricably connected for everyone. They are not separate but related in an indivisible fashion. The second is that she failed, perhaps inadvertently, to mention that both the USCCB and the Holy See have time and again emphasized the issues of war, capital punishment, fundamental health-care, and basic education in a “pro-life” context. Furthermore, she appeared to push the abortion question aside by emphasizing that it is a divisive issue because it “is often phrased in such extreme and such polarizing terms.” She insisted that the LCWR has given voice to other issues “that are less covered, but are equally important.” If this is so, she did not take any steps to demonstrate how the extinction of over 50 million human lives in the United States since Roe was decided in 1973 can compare to these other “equal” issues—whatever they are.

While much more can be said about her interview, I will stop for now after this final remark. Much of her interview is laced with references to the Second Vatican Council and the “reforms” for which the Council called. It strikes me that Sister Farrell appears to justify the actions taken by the LCWR and some of its members as consistent with the Council’s conclusions about religious life and related matters. If that is her point, I think the LCWR needs to re-read very carefully what the Council said that pertains to the issues she addressed in her recent interview.

In the meantime, I do think that all the faithful need to pray for the LCWR and the three bishops who will participate in the meetings with the LCWR as called for in the CDF’s doctrinal assessment report.

 

RJA sj

 

Inquiry from Ireland about "Drug Debts"

An MOJ reader from Ireland e-mailed me with the following set of questions.  I’ll open comments, for anyone who would like to respond. 

The first e-mail explained:  “One of the difficulties facing young people in Ireland is that of drugs. Ireland has become more and more like other Western countries in recent years. Alasdair MacIntyre made an interesting comment about Ireland at the ND Fall conference about ten years ago. Ireland travelled the same path the USA travelled - in our case it was 10 years rather than 200 years.  Here is the quandary; parishioners and those with whom groups like the St. Vincent de Paul society work may have 'drug debts'. In these cases, failure to pay may mean mutilation or murder. Who pays the debts? Those who are drug addicts cannot. They either don't have the money or may buy drugs from another source. What are the obligations of the family of the addict? What of Church organisations? What of the obligation of the police?”

My Contracts Professor response to this reader was as follows:  “Of course any the analysis I can offer is only a crude one based on American common law generally; in the U.S., I think this would be entirely a matter of state law, which might vary in different states, and I have no idea what the law in Ireland is.  But, if I am understanding the question correctly, the answer really doesn't depend on what 'the law' says.  If the issue is debt to a drug dealer, presumably the transaction itself is illegal, and therefore the law wouldn't impose any sort of binding obligation on any party -- the only means of enforcing the debt would be the extra-legal methods you described -- ie, mutilation or murder.  Generally speaking, obligations incurred for the sale of anything are enforceable only as contracts -- ie, I promise to give you drugs, you promise to give me money.  But if the transaction is an illegal transaction, at least in the U.S., no court would enforce the contractual obligation.  More importantly, probably, no litigant would ever attempt to use a court to enforce such a contract; so the person wanting to collect is left to the extra-legal methods.  So I think the answer to your question is that no one has any legally enforceable obligation to 'pay the debt' -- not the parents, the Church organizations, or even the user, really.  That's the risk any dealer who is selling drugs without payment up front has to pay.”

The reader pressed me, though, and asking:  “What of the moral obligations here? I'm sure that the legal analysis will be in accordance with what you have written. The difficulty is that there is a possibility in some of these cases where a threat is made that it will be carried out. The right to bodily integrity and the right to life (either/or) of the one owing the debt and perhaps the right to bodily integrity and the right to life of some of his/her family and friends may be at stake. Whatever the law may state, there may also be obligations towards human life of the penitent drug user on the ethical level.  What of family, what of those who care for other members of the family? It's certainly a real problem. I know, from talking to a priest and a lawyer who deal with this issue, that when a debt is relatively small (some few hundred euro), it is recommended that the money be paid.”

Any thoughts?

More thoughts on the "Now that's real religious persecution" argument

I had started to write an unreadably long comment in response to Matt Lister's smart reaction to my previous post, but just decided to post anew. 

I'll frame my comments as a response to Matt's first point about the non-uniqueness of the argument (though I think I'll rope in his second point too).  As an initial matter, I think Matt is right, as I've also heard this style of argument in the context of poverty, or more generally in the context of deciding to which moral cause it is most useful to allocate one's energies.  But I had two thoughts:

(1) The argument makes a bit more sense to me when the subject is individual morality -- the questions of what is the right way to act, and to what issue or moral problem it is worth devoting one's finite resources.  That's not to say that I agree with it, but I at least can understand it.  In the context of constitutionally protected rights, it makes less sense to me.  And perhaps in part for that reason, I guess, one tends to hear it much less in the rights context.  Can you think of any other context involving a constitutional right in which one hears the argument?  I think it would be very odd to hear it in, e.g., the free speech context.  It would be highly unusual to hear something like the following: "Well, sure, the Stolen Valor Act may or may not be a violation of the constitutional right of free speech, but look at all of the terrible ways in which free speech is violated abroad!  That's real suppression of free speech for you, and it suggests that something like the protection of intentional lying just isn't that important."  My guess is that the reason such an argument as to free speech would seem odd to us implicates Matt's second point.  That is, our culture of free speech protection is extremely vibrant.  And that goes for most other constitutional rights too: most people think that a right is a right, and ought to be vindicated irrespective of how gross the violations of it may be in other places in the world.  But, as Matt suggests in his second point, the current condition or status of religious liberty by comparison with other fundamental rights is more contested, and therefore weaker: we may agree about the extremes, but there is currently a broader (and perhaps ever broadening?) range of (reasonable) disagreement in the middle than there is for, e.g., free speech. 

(2) I nevertheless take Matt's point that the argument itself is not unique to religious liberty.  Still, there seems to me to be something in addition going on.  It isn't just the claim that if you really cared about X, then you'd concentrate your efforts elsewhere in the world where violations of X are gravest.  That sort of argument would apply in the poverty context that Matt raises.  But in the religious liberty discussion, there is a further argumentative move going on: if you really cared about X, then you'd concentrate your efforts elsewhere in the world where violations of X are gravest, and you'd realize how good you've got it here, and that whatever violations of X you perceive here just aren't that serious.  I am dubious that this latter move is being made in the poverty example that Matt raises -- I certainly don't think it's necessary conceptually to make that latter move.  But Matt is much more familiar with the egalitarian poverty literature than I am (many people are), so I am happy to be put straight.