Thanks to Michael P. for linking to the piece from the Chronicle on Mark Lilla's Stillborn God, which was excerpted recently in the New York Times Magazine.
The Chronicle piece quotes Siva Vaidhyanathan, a cultural historian at the University of Virginia, as being concerned about Lilla's view
that there is something called "the West" and that "within this alleged 'West' there is a 'We' that conforms to the core tenets of textbook history: 'We' were once burdened by superstitions and irrationalities until somehow 'we' became enlightened."
(Here's Prof. Vaidhyanathan's post over at "Altercations", from which the above quote was taken.)
Wholly apart from the Lilla excerpt -- more on that later -- and without disagreeing with Prof. Vaidhyanathan's point that the boundaries and content of "the West" are not always obvious, I guess I'm one who still believes firmly that it is a useful -- indeed, a necessary -- idea. There is, it seems to me, a "West," and its history is inseparable from "our" history as Catholics and Americans.
According to the Chronicle, Prof. Vaidhyanathan is also
. . . not "puzzled" by the sort of "theological radicalism" that emanates from Iran or Saudi Arabia. He claims that it echoes the theologically infused politics that one can find "in any conservative Baptist church in Texas." Even more arresting, Vaidhyanathan claims that this "hard-core millenarianism...is perhaps the most powerful strain of political thought in the United States today."
Good Lord. Again: Distinctions must be drawn -- it is important that they be drawn, and those who fail to draw them err badly -- but are too often not being drawn (see, e.g., Andrew Sullivan's tired "Christianist" riff, or "American Theocracy", or "American Fascists", or . . . ): The GOP is not the Taliban; Rick Santorum is not Sayyid Qutb; our "Red v. Blue" is not the Thirty Years' War; Operation Rescue is not Al-Qaeda; regulating partial-birth-abortion is not stoning unveiled women; etc. The suggestion that the violent ideology "that emanates from Iran or Saudi Arabia" "echoes" what one can find in "any conservative Baptist church in Texas" is . . . seriously mistaken (an "echo" after all, is a fainter version of the original sound, isn't it?). And, the claim that "hard-core millenarianism" is "perhaps the most powerful strain of political thought in the United States" is . . . unhelpful and inconsistent with the facts.
Now, with respect to the Lilla piece, certainly, it's the kind of thing that I suppose we should be delighted to find in the Sunday newspaper, and discussed in the public forum. It's full of big and interesting ideas and claims. At the end of the day, though, I came away thinking that there is a way of thinking about the relationship religion and politics -- a Catholic way -- that is ignored in the essay. As I read the piece, it canvasses three ways of thinking about this relationship: (a) religious questions are and should be separate; (b) politics involves, and simply involves, the implementation of God's revealed, specific plans on earth; and (c) "liberal theology", a "third way between Christian orthodoxy and the Great Separation," which failed -- Lilla thinks -- because it offered no answer to the question, "why be a Christian?" (or a Jew, etc.).
But, the "Great Separation", as Lilla frames it, is not -- it seems to me -- the only alternative (nor, indeed, has it really been our alternative) to theocracy or the hollowed-out thing that Lilla (perhaps inaccurately) calls "liberal theology." See, e.g., John Courtney Murray, "We Hold These Truths."
I have some quibbles with Lilla's "Great Separation" narrative, too, but I'll save those for another post.
Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Over at Balkinization, Brian Tamanaha rejoins the conversation on the relationship between human rights and belief in God, responding to recent posts by Fr. Araujo and me. An excerpt:
Rob and Father Araujo, it should be noted, are not taking the same position. Rob (like Perry) is arguing that religious belief alone, even false belief, provides a superior grounding for human rights, whereas Father Araujo identifies the superiority of religion for morality and human rights in the “objectivity that surrounds God’s existence.” Father Araujo, moreover, extends the argument beyond human rights to claim that the morality and moral code of religious believers is superior to “the atheist’s morality and moral code.”
In response to Father Araujo, I can only say that if God indeed exists (and if it is God’s will that humans have inherent dignity), then he is correct: human rights and morality have an objective existence. But the essential question, as always, is whether God exists—which he simply assumes.
In response to Rob’s argument that even a false belief in God provides a superior rational grounding for human rights, I offer a simple (and unoriginal) question: What if belief in God is like belief in witchcraft?
Believers in witchcraft can, to be sure, have an internally coherent belief system that amounts to a religion—and let’s also say that inherent human dignity and human rights and a deity are part of their witchcraft belief system. Would Perry and Rob assert that this belief system is “rational” and provides a superior foundation for human rights? Does not the “rationality” of the belief system hinge upon the truth of witchcraft (rather than merely belief in witchcraft) and upon the existence of their claimed deity?
If the answer to the latter question is “yes,” then (for the same reasons) the rationality and coherence of religious belief systems also rest on the truth of God’s existence, which has never been proven. Consequently, religion provides no more solid a rational foundation for human rights than any other ungrounded moral belief system.
My answer to Brian's question is yes, witchcraft could provide a rational basis for human rights if 1) living consistently with the claims of witchcraft required observance of human rights; and 2) the person in question believed that the claims of witchcraft are objectively true. Let's assume that God does not exist, and that believers are deluded, while atheists see things as they truly are. In my view, it is the fact of the delusion that still allows for the rational foundation of human rights. I'm not equating "rational" with universally accessible and compelling; I'm focusing more on the rational relationship between an authentically held belief regarding our existence (not simply wishful thinking) and recognition of human rights. Atheists know they are creating human rights; believers rationally follow the implications of reality (as they perceive it) to the unavoidable conclusion that humans naturally possess rights.
And again, to be clear, none of this is to suggest that religious voices should be privileged in human rights discourse or that non-religious voices are less legitimate or welcome. It is simply to point out that religious voices bring a dimension to the conversation that is not easily replaced by a one-size-fits-all language that has been stripped of any sense that human dignity emanates from a source greater than ourselves.
This is a followup to my earlier post.
From the online Chronicle of Higher Education:
August 21, 2007
Mark Lilla and the Threat of Theological Politics
Siva Vaidhyanathan declares himself a longtime admirer of Mark
Lilla's work, which is precisely why he is worried about Lilla's
forthcoming book, The Stillborn God: Religion, Politics, and the Modern West, which was excerpted this past Sunday in The New York Times Magazine.
Vaidhyanathan's
concern stems from Lilla's apparent belief that there is something
called "the West" and that "within this alleged 'West' there is a 'We'
that conforms to the core tenets of textbook history: 'We' were once
burdened by superstitions and irrationalities until somehow 'we' became
enlightened."
Vaidhyanathan, settling in to his new digs at the University of Virginia, where he is a professor of media studies and law, lays out his case on Eric Alterman's Web site, Altercation, where he is guest blogging this week. (To read more about Vaidhyanathan, check out this profile by The Chronicle's Scott Carlson.)
"Any
construction of an intelligible and enlightened 'West' must elide all
of those messy contradictions within it: Nazism, Francoism (Catholic
royalism), Stalinism, radical Serbian nationalism, Jerry Falwell, etc.
But mostly," Vaidhyanathan writes, "it must ignore the diversity of
thought and practice among real people who inhabit 'the West.' And it
must ignore the omnipresence of materialism, secularism, consumerism,
rationalism, and even atheism as major traditions in places that could
not easily be described as 'Western' such as India, Iran, and China."
Contrasting Lilla,
a professor of the humanities at Columbia University, Vaidhyanathan is
not "puzzled" by the sort of "theological radicalism" that emanates
from Iran or Saudi Arabia. He claims that it echoes the theologically
infused politics that one can find "in any conservative Baptist church
in Texas." Even more arresting, Vaidhyanathan claims that this
"hard-core millenarianism...is perhaps the most powerful strain of
political thought in the United States today." As such, he faults Lilla
for failing to examine how political theology influences not only
radical Islam, but also radical Christianity and radical Judaism.
"The
conflict between political theology and political liberalism is, as
Lilla claims, the central conflict of our time," Vaidhyanathan writes.
"I would add that it is the central conflict of all time. And it ain't
just Americans and Europeans who have to deal with it. The front lines
of this struggle run through Jakarta, Bombay, Karachi, Cairo, and
Lagos. That's where the real story is."
(Not surprisingly, Christopher Hitchens has some of his own objections to Lilla's thesis.)
Evan Goldstein | Posted on Tuesday August 21, 2007 | Permalink
Coming on the heels of a $51 million gift last May, Marquette University Law School just announced another major gift: $30 million from Joseph J. Zilber, Milwaukee philanthropist, real estate developer and Chairman of the Board of Zilber Ltd., a real estate holding company. (HT: Empirical Legal Studies blog.) Congrats to Dean Kearney and everyone else at Marquette, Milwaukee's "Catholic, Jesuit University."
CNN (and TNT) have been plugging this upcoming series, "God's Warriors," hosted by Christiane Amanpour. I admit it: I'm not optimistic, and anticipate a series of badly misplaced equivalency arguments (i.e., "sure, there are the Islamists, but what about the home-schooling evangelicals?").
Jim Lindgren has a good post, over at the Volokh Conspiracy, about the demographics of "fundamentalists" and other things. And, he has links to lots of other commentary about the series.
Thinking about the series, and these posts, I find myself thinking also about the Dutch bishop's recent suggestion that Catholics call God "Allah" (a suggestion that Robert Miller firmly declines here) and also Mark Lilla's recent NYT Mag article, "The Politics of God." One thought I come away from all this with: Distinctions must be drawn -- it is important that they be drawn, and those who fail to draw them err badly -- but are too often not being drawn (see, e.g., Andrew Sullivan's tired "Christianist" riff, or "American Theocracy", or "American Fascists", or . . . ): The GOP is not the Taliban; Rick Santorum is not Sayyid Qutb; our "Red v. Blue" is not the Thirty Years' War; Operation Rescue is not Al-Qaeda; regulating partial-birth-abortion is not stoning unveiled women; etc.