Garnett & Lash on church-state separation, religious freedom, and the ministerial exception

Here, thanks to Engage and the Federalist Society, is an edited transcript of a conversation that my friend Kurt Lash and I had last Spring, at the University of Illinois.  Topics covered include the Smith decision, the Hosanna-Tabor case and the ministerial exception, church-state separation, the views of Washington and Jefferson, etc., etc.