Mirror of Justice

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Thursday, May 7, 2009

Question for Father Araujo on subjective conscience

I understand (but do not agree with) Father Araujo's apparent position that Catholics are required to follow Church teachings regardless of their subjective conscience.
I am still not sure whether he thinks the quality of the formation of one's conscience has anything to do with the question whether legal protection should be afforded to it. So, if a Native American sincerely believes that peyote must be ingested as a part of a religious ceremony, I am inclined to support protection wholly without regard to the theological sagacity of the position. I think that is the message of Vatican II. Leaving aside cases where the government has a compelling state interest, this means, of course, that Vatican II honors subjective conscience (not objective conscience) when the government seeks to force a person to act against his or her conscience. Father Araujo's last post seemed to suggest that the question of whether a conscience was or was not well formed had something to do with the question whether the civil law could impose upon religious freedom. Perhaps I misread the answer to Rob's question on this and, if so, I apologize.

Discussion of SSM, civil unions, and religious liberty at the U of Chicago blog

As I mentioned the other day, Geof Stone, Martha Nussbaum, Doug Laycock, and others (including me) are having an online discussion about Stone's recent op-ed regarding civil-unions and religious liberty.  Check out the latest posts by Geof, Doug, and me.  While you are at it, take the time to read Dale Carpenter's long post on the matter, here.

A response to Rob concerning his questions to me on conscience protection

 

Thank you, Rob, for your questions and comments on my posting regarding conscience and its protection that I posted yesterday.

 

As I mentioned then, the Mirror of Justice is a web log dedicated to the development of Catholic legal theory, and because of that, I believe it is essential that we consider issues from the Catholic perspective. This does not preclude our discussion of other views on the matters under discussion and debate. Moreover, it does not mean that the Catholic perspective cannot share views with the non-Catholic viewpoint on many issues; however, it is clear that there will be disagreements on some occasions. With regard to issues dealing with conscience and its protection, I believe that you and I do arrive on the same side, as you said, on many components of the conscience debate. We have discussed these agreements in the past, both here at MOJ and in person.

 

But, there have been a few occasions when we have disagreed. I cannot predict if disagreements will occur again, but I cannot rule out the possibility. Moreover, our disagreements have not always been on issues bearing the same or uniform weight. The fact that we may disagree on some issues does not mean that one of our consciences is not well-formed. In some areas, I think there can be disagreement within and outside the Catholic community on particular issues because the Church’s teachings have not yet been precisely defined, e.g., capital punishment. Having said this, I think that it is clear that the Church does teach that there is a very strong presumption against the legitimacy of capital punishment in most instances. However, on issues such as abortion, torture, marriage, and embryonic stem cell research that will take the life of the embryo, the Church’s teachings are much more precise and clear.

 

I also think we both agree that there are many Catholics and non-Catholics who arrive at the same position on abortion, torture, marriage, and embryonic stem cell research. Here, I would like to recall a point I made yesterday about this intersection of views: “The Catholic perspective may, Deo gratias, intersect with those held by persons of other religious persuasions or persons with no religious views, but there is no guarantee that this will be the case.” The Catholic it would seem is asked by the Church to develop his or her conscience in light of the Church’s teachings so that the person’s conscience is consistent with the Church’s teachings on the matter that is of concern to conscience. Of course, there are persons, including some Catholics, who take a different approach and arrive at a different position than mine. It appears that the Mirror of Justice has been one venue in which these disagreements have presented themselves.

 

When the non-Catholic is under consideration, I realize—as I think you do—that he or she is not obliged to study Catholic teachings when forming his or her conscience. However, he or she may take some other approach that still leads to the same conclusions that the Catholic should develop and hold. In both cases, these persons—Catholic and non-Catholic—should have arrived at a well-formed conscience that merits protection. In the context of the non-Catholic, the Church’s teachings are not imposed on him or her. In the case of the Catholic, the faithful person who is Catholic and chooses to remain so elects to use the Church’s teachings in the formation of his or her conscience. This is the response I offer to your first issue.

 

Regarding the second issue you raise, you state that a person (I am assuming you mean a Catholic here) “may be culpable for a poorly formed conscience, but not for following that poorly formed conscience.” In either case, the person has a poorly formed conscience, and by what you said, the person remains culpable. Are you in fact asking what, if anything, should happen to the Catholic who has a poorly formed conscience whether or not he or she follows it?

 

Thanks, Rob. If the need be, I look forward to continuing this discussion with you.

 

RJA sj

 

Wednesday, May 6, 2009

Question for Fr. Araujo on conscience

I suspect that Fr. Araujo and I come out on the same side on many of today's conscience debates, but we might get there from different starting points.  He writes:

If the person who claims conscientious objector status to either (or both) of these “services” [abortion or contraception] does so by relying on moral principles that are not simply from the “inner voice” but from the objective standard that relies on the rigorous process of right reason, should not his or her claim be protected? I think so, if one relies on the rationale proposed by the Church concerning these and related matters.

And:

To me, protecting the right of conscience well-formed is a win-win situation: those who choose to engage in the controversial and what others deem morally objectionable are entitled to do so because the law says they may; but, those who choose not to participate in the controversial because of what their well-formed conscience instructs can go on with the peace of mind that their well-formed conscience shall not be compromised.

So here's my question for Fr. Araujo: are you suggesting that whether a conscience is "well formed" according to Catholic teaching should be relevant to determining whether it gains protection under the civil law, or are you simply pointing out that it is important for Catholics to form their consciences well?  If the latter, I'm on board.  If the former, that standard would seem to eviscerate the liberty of conscience.  It also, from my reading, stands in significant tension with a good portion of the Catholic intellectual tradition, much of which has emphasized that a person may be culpable for a poorly formed conscience, but not for following that poorly formed conscience.

A response to Prof. Cathy Kaveny’s thoughts on conscience protection

 

 

I take this opportunity at the outset of this post to thank Michael Perry for drawing our attention to the two interesting, important, and thought-provoking Commonweal posts of Prof. Cathy Kaveny on conscience protection. Clearly, this issue of conscience protection will be with us for some time. Evidence of this is found in the well-attended conference at Fordham in which Rob Vischer participated and reported elsewhere on these pages of the Mirror of Justice. Today, the emphasis on conscience protection appears to concentrate on those in the professions dealing with health care, e.g., doctors, nurses, medical technicians, and pharmacists. But we need to keep in mind that anyone from the renter of an apartment to anyone who enters the public realm in some fashion that deals with the controversies of the day—abortion, same-sex marriage, military service, scientific research, etc.—may find it necessary to claim conscientious objector status and protection to whatever the state and those who wield its power require with regard to these and other controversies that present moral issues.

 

As theologian-lawyer/lawyer-theologian, Cathy has presented us with some important issues to consider. A fundamental issue that her thoughtful postings present deals not so much with the idea of conscience protection as with the breadth of conscience protection. I would like to offer the following thoughts on this issue and those which may be related to it.

 

As the Mirror of Justice is a web log dedicated to the development of Catholic legal theory, I submit that it is essential for us to consider the question of conscience from how the Church considers and defines it. Most people, certainly in the western legal cultures, would agree that there is a need to protect conscience; however, it is essential to understand what conscience is and, just as importantly, what it is not in so far as what must be protected when the claim to conscientious objector status is claimed.

 

For many, conscience is that voice within us that directs our thoughts, words, and deeds. It helps most persons to distinguish between what is to be done and what is to be avoided. For many, but not all, conscience is formed by a moral evaluation of what is appropriate and what is inappropriate in thinking, speaking, and acting. But if conscience is only subjectively determined, the moral considerations that may accompany its exercise are most likely subjectively determined as well. Private morality is not, in all cases, a bad thing. But to those persons sympathetic to the perspective of Catholic thinking and the development of legal theory that accompanies it, the moral evaluation that molds conscience cannot be restricted to this “inner voice” and nothing more. For the Catholic, conscience must be rooted in that which is beyond and transcends the restrictions of the subjectivism that is characteristic of the “inner voice” that is tied to nothing beyond the ego.

 

In the Catholic context, conscience is that part of human nature that takes the individual beyond the subjectively determined and relates the person and his or her thoughts, words, and deeds to the transcendent and objective moral order. There are some, perhaps many, who would be skeptical of this claim. But the Catholic needs to be remembered that he or she is in communion with God; is a disciple of Christ through baptism; and, is united with the Body of Christ, His Church. Therefore, he or she should not join the ranks of the skeptics but, rather, acknowledge that the claim I present, which is not to say that it is only my claim, takes us closer to the truth of what conscience should dictate and how it should be protected. For this truth leads us to Truth—God—who is the source of the transcendent and objective moral order that is at the base of the well-formed conscience.

 

So, when we come to some of the fascinating scenarios posed by Cathy about how any person should go about making individual ethical choices, the question of how far should conscience be protected must be confronted. The approach to responding to this in the realm of Catholic legal theory, I suggest, is non-partisan in party politics but is partisan when viewed as being Catholic or not. For me and the position that I must present, it is irrelevant if the subject under consideration deals with abortion rather than contraception, or contraception rather than abortion, etc., etc. If the person who claims conscientious objector status to either (or both) of these “services” does so by relying on moral principles that are not simply from the “inner voice” but from the objective standard that relies on the rigorous process of right reason, should not his or her claim be protected? I think so, if one relies on the rationale proposed by the Church concerning these and related matters.

 

I share Cathy’s view that it is mistaken to treat the controversies with which conscientious objector status is immersed as simply partisan skirmishes “accompanying a shift in political power.” As she further indicates, it is essential to grapple with the underlying moral and political issues, but it is also vital to keep in mind that the moral has to be distinguished from the political. Otherwise, the moral may well be influenced by the political. In the present age and probably beyond, it is or will be much more difficult, and sometimes impossible, for the moral to influence the political. If we think too much like lawyers and not enough like Catholics who are lawyers, we become susceptible to being swayed by the political currents that take our country, our civilization, our world adrift.

 

Thus, conscience well-formed and why it must be protected is, for the Catholic, always crucial. The Catholic perspective may, Deo gratias, intersect with those held by persons of other religious persuasions or persons with no religious views, but there is no guarantee that this will be the case.

 

I concede that there are many takes on conscience. Nonetheless, conscience consistent with the manner of which I speak is not merely the position of a person who does not like what is going on and is unwilling to accept it on the basis of what that person believes to be, in good faith, immoral or evil or politically unacceptable. Conscience is much more.

 

The fact that many views of “conscience” may exist in our culture and in our country has been intensified and reinforced by Justice Kennedy’s regrettable dicta in Casey contained in the “mystery of life” passage as I have argued here on numerous occasions. The law may not be designed to implement morality into all its content. But, by the same token, the law must never become an instrument to deny the legitimacy of the moral view, as defined by the objective standards explained by the Church, held by those who disagree with the law in a given instance. Disagreement by itself is not the act of a brigand. It may be argued that the society and the rights of others are harmed if this conscience were protected. But is this really true?

 

Really?

 

My dear friends of MOJ, I deny that this is the case. There will continue to be those who champion abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem cell procedures, and whatever other controversial idea and its practice that may come along one day. It is evident that for every doctor, nurse, medical technician, pharmacist, clergy member, justice of the peace, lab technician, photographer, land lord, etc., etc., etc. who objects to engaging in the controversial decisions of the day to which he or she objects on the grounds of conscience, well-formed, there will be an opposing member of the same category who will comply, perhaps even with enthusiasm, with whatever is requested and permitted by the law. The undue burden is not on the woman who wants an abortion and is refused it by a particular doctor, clinic, or hospital. The burden that is undue is, rather, the estate of the person who chooses not to participate in this and other controversial practices that the law permits or even encourages but is, by objective standards, morally objectionable.

 

Once the truth of this is realized by us, by our society, and by our society’s legal institutions, we may no longer find it necessary to argue about conscience protection and how far it should apply. The decision not to do something objectionable because the well-formed conscience says that it is so may be personal. But when all is said and done, this decision does not prohibit another who disagrees with it from going to those who will comply with their requests or demands. To me, protecting the right of conscience well-formed is a win-win situation: those who choose to engage in the controversial and what others deem morally objectionable are entitled to do so because the law says they may; but, those who choose not to participate in the controversial because of what their well-formed conscience instructs can go on with the peace of mind that their well-formed conscience shall not be compromised.

 

We live in a world and political culture which say that error has rights—even though only people can have rights. So, people with erroneous views have rights to proclaim and exercise them. But this is not to suggest or require that those individuals who choose not to participate in these errors have no rights either.

 

RJA sj

 

"Conservative Catholics": Let Go!

[From one of many--very many!--NYT blogs:]

May 6, 2009, 6:34 pm

A Daughter Responds to a Mother’s Anger Over a Co-Ed Dorm Room

In less than six hours, we’ve gotten more than 200 responses to our post that linked to a National Review article by a mother incensed over her daughter’s assignment to a co-ed dorm room at Stanford.

Many have expressed irritation with the mother, Karin Venable Morin, for appearing to try to exert too much control over her adult daughter’s life (she is a senior at Stanford.) Others have taken issue with Stanford for even making such rooms an option. Still other comments have rapped the daughter for missing the dorm meeting at which rooms were assigned, though nowhere in the article is there any indication that the daughter was disappointed in her assignment.

Late this afternoon (on the East Coast, at least), we received an extended comment from someone who described herself as “Karin Morin’s daughter, the person in question.” We spoke soon afterward, and she confirmed her full name, Daisy Morin. She is 22, and her major is film studies. She graduates June 14.

In her comment, she confirms much of what our readers have suspected, namely that this matter is more a dispute between mother and child than between student and Stanford. The younger Ms. Morin writes:

This conflict has very little to do with Stanford and gender-neutral housing. Is has everything to do with my parents having a hard time adjusting to the fact that I’m out of the house (I’m the oldest), I’m 3,000 miles away, and -especially- that I’m a liberal agnostic while they are conservative Catholics. The NR really should have looked into this situation a little bit before publishing that article.

She also writes, “I was happy with my rooming situation. It made no sense to inconvenience a lot of busy people over something that wasn’t actually a problem for me.”

And she says in her comment that she moved into her co-op dorm fully aware of the possibility of “living in a co-ed room.”

When we spoke by phone, I asked Daisy Morin if her mother had made good on her promise — expressed in the National Review article — to refuse to pay for her daughter’s spring term at Stanford. The mother said she threatened to do so as a sign of her moral outrage at the institution for making such housing available.

Daisy Morin said her mother had indeed cut off her spring tuition payments. In response, the younger Ms. Morin said she had taken out $3,000 in loans, in addition to other loans she already had as part of her financial aid package.

You can read Daisy Morin’s comment in full here. If you wish to comment further, you can do so using the comment box below or the comment box on our original post.

A Few More Thoughts on Conscience Protection

I appreciate Cathy Kaveny's column and post and Rob's further post on conscience.  A few thoughts.

First, Cathy and Rob are absolutely right to emphasize that a commitment to conscience must be principled, not simply special pleading for, or a second-best means to advance, one's own views.  That doesn't mean, of course, that one is obliged to support every assertion of conscience with which one disagrees.  All such assertions are limited by the need to protect the interests of others, and one can take conscience seriously while still deciding in a given case that protecting it would impermissibly violate another's interest.  In particular, one can quite defensibly say that the question whether another human being is entitled to the most basic protections, including life, cannot be governed by individual conscience.  So to me, a pro-life advocate is not at all necessarily inconsistent in rejecting conscience claims to commit abortions while supporting conscience claims to refuse to perform them.  By contrast, I think, we are increasingly coming to see that if we take claims of conscience seriously and require that state-imposed harms to conscience be justified by palpable, non-speculative social concerns, then it is going to be difficult to justify a great many forms of state discrimination against same-sex relationships.

Second, there are indeed important differences in the degree to which an objector would be facilitating conduct s/he opposes; and only with some showing of closeness can society recognize a claim of conscience (is the night receptionist at a hotel really personally involved in the conduct of couples using the rooms?).  But I do think that (on a distinct though related question) we ought to take seriously the burden on conscience that occurs when people are excluded from a profession or occupation because of a state-imposed demand.  As Doug Laycock has pointed out (in this book), historically a central violation of religious liberty under the English establishment was the test oath, the state exclusion of Catholics and other dissenters from a range of occupations, "including positions of responsibility in the civil and military service, solicitors, barristers, notaries, school teachers, and most businesses with more than two apprentices."  We can't simply say that Catholics voluntarily gave up their rights to participate in those occupations by remaining Catholics, or (in Rob's words) that Catholics were "making an affirmative claim  to be empowered in [their] choice of profession."

Admittedly there's some difference when the exclusion is based on particular conduct rather than simple religious identity.  But the lesson still remains that exclusions from a range of occupations--and today's nondiscrimination requirements can indeed affect a wide range--will burden individuals and cost society the contributions of significant groups of talented, conscientious people.  We are under some obligation, I think, to ask whether a rule that effectively excludes a set of conscientious objectors from a profession or occupation is really necessary (as is obviously the case with a rule requiring executioners to perform executions).  If it's not necessary, it may suggest a hostility to the group's beliefs or at least a callous indifference.

That brings up a third point.  Cathy says, and I agree, that "sound legislation needs to take into account the interests of vulnerable third parties."  But the flip side, which she doesn't mention, is that when third parties are not vulnerable or significantly affected, no strong reason exists to override the prima facie value of consicence.   the majority of the controversial recent cases about same-sex couples -- the New Mexico wedding photogapher, the Christian running small rental properties, Catholic Charities' banishment from adoptions in Massachusetts -- there was not the slightest showing that same-sex couples had any difficulty finding another provider.  A significant part of the motivation for fining or excluding those objectors, I think, has been to prevent offense to others (not material harm), or for the state to express disapproval of the objector's belief -- which makes these cases look more and more like the English test-oath exclusions.

Running through many of these points -- and necessary to make sense of them -- is a prima facie distinction between burdens on conscience from the state and from private parties.  Except in cases of market power, private parties usually cannot prevent others' access to goods, services, or occupations; in a market society, there is usually another willing provider.  But the state can shut down access altogether.  We could implement this distinction by eliminating the laws against private discrimination; but because those laws don't always affect conscience, and experience has shown the laws are sometimes necessary, they can be justifiable as a default.  Then the way to balance conflicting claims of conscience is to have non-discrimination laws with meaningful exemptions that presume conscience is protected except in cases where it would choke off access.

Now, the State of Maine ...

NYT, 5/6/09

Maine Governor Signs Same-Sex Marriage Bill

BOSTON — Gov. John Baldacci of Maine on Wednesday signed a same-sex marriage bill passed by the State Legislature, saying he had reversed his position on such marriages after deciding it was a matter of equal protection under the state’s Constitution.

“I have come to believe that this is a question of fairness and of equal protection under the law,” the governor said in a news release from Augusta, Me., where he announced his decision to sign the bill in a news conference.

Later, in a telephone interview, he said, “It’s not the way I was raised and it’s not the way that I am.” He added: “But at the same time I have a responsibility to uphold the Constitution. That’s my job, and you can’t allow discrimination to stand when it’s raised to your level.”

With the enactment of the Maine bill, gay-rights activists have moved remarkably close to their goal of making same-sex marriage legal throughout New England just five years after Massachusetts became the first state in the nation to allow it.

But gay couples may not be able to wed in Maine anytime soon. The law would normally go into effect 90 days after the Legislature adjourns, which is usually in late June. But opponents have vowed to pursue a “people’s veto,” or a public referendum allowed in Maine to ask voters if they want to overturn the law.

The opponents would need to collect about 55,000 signatures within 90 days of the Legislature adjourning to get the question on the ballot, and if they did, the law would be suspended until a referendum could be held. That would be in November at the earliest, and more likely, in June.

Mr. Baldacci acknowledged the likelihood of a referendum on the issue, saying his enactment of the law may not be “the final word.”

“Just as the Maine Constitution demands that all people are treated equally under the law, it also guarantees that the ultimate political power in the State belongs to the people,” he said in the news release. “While the good and just people of Maine may determine this issue, my responsibility is to uphold the Constitution and do, as best as possible, what is right. I believe that signing this legislation is the right thing to do."

[The rest is here.]

Obama cannot speak at Catholic prayer breakfast?

From the Washington Times:

[T]he president passed up the fifth annual National Catholic Prayer Breakfast, scheduled for the Washington Hilton and expected to have 1,300 participants. Joe Cella, a spokesman for the effort, said the White House never asked for Mr. Obama to attend.

Mr. Bush did ask to come and always made a few brief remarks. But the new president, Mr. Cella said, would not have been allowed to speak because of a 2004 directive from the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops saying that public figures who have taken positions opposing Catholic doctrine should not be publicly honored.

"We'd host him graciously, but we'd not give him a platform to speak," Mr. Cella said.

It seems things are spinning a bit out of control here, and I cannot imagine that the Bishops -- at least the majority of them -- would approve of their statement being construed so as to justify this result.  President Obama is not allowed to speak at a Catholic Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C.?  And President Bush "always" spoke, I assume even after his administration's torture policies were made public?  Is this really the way to engage the culture?

"Matters of Conscience" Event

Here's a link to the National Catholic Reporter's article which gives of nice snapshot of the Fordham Center for Religion and Culture "Matters of Conscience: When Moral Precepts Collide With Public Policy" discussion last week, featuring MOJ's own Rob Vischer, together with Marc Stern, Doug Kmiec, and Nadine Strossen, and moderated by Russ Pearce. 

Rob's contribution to the discussion was also a great sneak preview of his forthcoming book on Conscience and the Common Good.  As he was quoted in this NCR piece, "where values clash, the default position for a society that takes conscience seriously" should be to "resist temptation to use state power to close down the conversation," rather than "see which side can harness state power to its chosen value."

It was indeed a "lively debate"!